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Old 24-02-2012, 12:01 AM
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but its massive, i use a little knot which gives very close to a binimi breaking stain.

Just a knot i made up really, never seen anyone else use it, had a few people ask about it too. But it is a small half hitch, and like a longer double grinner on the other side.

Lifted a 8lb fish up the pier on it last week, 20lb main line. I was fearing for it, was a relief when i got hands on the leader, and even more so when i swung it over and realised the size of the fish!
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Old 24-02-2012, 03:30 AM
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I am with Andy on this 1, bimini every time, the bimini gives you the strongest joint of all because it actually doubles the BS of the main line
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Old 24-02-2012, 07:06 AM
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That's a lot of mess on just for a shock knot, it says the tag ends won't catch as you cast! Maybe so but they'll catch on rings when you bring a half decent fish in.

A simple granny knot with line passed through and a grinner tied to other sides all you need. Simple, strong, easy and quick to tie.
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Old 24-02-2012, 08:03 AM
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Lots of variations mentioned but not the one I use.

Tie a simple overhand loop knot in the shock leader leaving a tag about 4 inches long.

Pass your main line through the loop coming from the tag side of the loop.You will need about 6 inches.

Pull the the shock leader knot tight so it does not pinch the main line.

Wrap the main line up the shock leader 4 times the down the shock leader 3 times. The downwards wrap overlays the upwards wrap.

This brings your main line back down to the overhand loop in the shock leader.

Slip the main line between the shock leader line and the first upwards wrap of the main line leaving about a 3 inch tag of the main line.

Wet the whole lot and then slowly pull the main line - you most likely will need to pull on the main line tag you left to keep the knot neat and flat.

Once the main line knot has slipped down to the shock leader knot pull the tight - I use pliers. Then pull the main line really tight - it will now form a tapered knot almost the same diameter as the shock leader knot.

Trim the tags off as close as you can and finished. Thanks to Colin Bell who taught me this.

I like this knot as the taper stops ring shock when you cast
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Old 24-02-2012, 08:16 AM
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thanks all for advice
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Lots of variations mentioned but not the one I use.

Tie a simple overhand loop knot in the shock leader leaving a tag about 4 inches long.

Pass your main line through the loop coming from the tag side of the loop.You will need about 6 inches.

Pull the the shock leader knot tight so it does not pinch the main line.

Wrap the main line up the shock leader 4 times the down the shock leader 3 times. The downwards wrap overlays the upwards wrap.

This brings your main line back down to the overhand loop in the shock leader.

Slip the main line between the shock leader line and the first upwards wrap of the main line leaving about a 3 inch tag of the main line.

Wet the whole lot and then slowly pull the main line - you most likely will need to pull on the main line tag you left to keep the knot neat and flat.

Once the main line knot has slipped down to the shock leader knot pull the tight - I use pliers. Then pull the main line really tight - it will now form a tapered knot almost the same diameter as the shock leader knot.

Trim the tags off as close as you can and finished. Thanks to Colin Bell who taught me this.

I like this knot as the taper stops ring shock when you cast
I like the sound of this one mind. I'll be tryiung this next time i think.
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The "slim beauty" is the knot I use - it's very similar to the knot described by Terryc above with one or two differences: you tie a double overhand knot in the leader, and the mainline is doubled over to start with. This means that I can tie a bimini twist in my mainline (for heavy ground use, 30lb+) and use a long loop to tie this knot, or for lighter lines without the bimini I just double it over as in the video below. It's easy to tie (with a little practice) when out fishing, which is important to me!

Here's a video showing how it's done - and it hasn't let me down in the years I've been using it. Coupled with a bimini twist in 30lb line fishing heavy ground I've no trouble smashing out 50lb hook lengths & even 80lb rig bodies when fast up, getting the rest of my gear back most times. On lighter lines I do away with the bimini & just use the knot as shown - I find the bimini too strong here & often your mainline will snap halfway loosing too much line if you get stuck solid. In this instance I'd rather just loose the leader, but it's still a very strong & streamlined knot.

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I have used a bimini for a while now and it is a strong knot, however I find if and when your line breaks the break is in the loop that is left after the bimini is tied (the loop you tie your shock leader to). The loop is just a loop of your main line, so BS is not increased, I'm using 18-20lb mainline. Because of this when fishing with the above BS line I am using a Improved Albright, easy to tie and I feel just as strong, the knot is also smaller, so goes through my rings with ease. this is just my opinion
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Old 24-02-2012, 11:22 AM
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ill have to start to doing the bimini knot lol
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I have used a bimini for a while now and it is a strong knot, however I find if and when your line breaks the break is in the loop that is left after the bimini is tied (the loop you tie your shock leader to). The loop is just a loop of your main line, so BS is not increased, I'm using 18-20lb mainline. Because of this when fishing with the above BS line I am using a Improved Albright, easy to tie and I feel just as strong, the knot is also smaller, so goes through my rings with ease. this is just my opinion

if anything is going to fail using a bimini it should be your mainline, not the loop, the loop gives you twice the B/S of ya mainline, therefore ya mainline is the weakest between the bimini twist, loop, shock leader, rig body and snood, you must be doing something wrong somewhere mate for the loop to snap.

Just a thought here, when you say the loop, have you got it single, if so you defo got it wrong

you say the loop is just a loop of ya mainline, wrong, ya loop is then turned over to give you a double loop which is why you have double the B/S of ya mainline, hope this helps ya mate
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