Anyone ditched the pulley rig?
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g-force
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Never use the things, I hate them! When I did (briefly) try them I found they consistently failed to hook up some rod-wrenching bites. My other gripe is that if using a rotten-bottom length of weak line, this had a tendency to wrap itself around the rig body on the retrieve. So the sinker was then fouled on the rig body and if pulled into a snag with a fish on it was in front of the fish, making loss of the fish more likely. I prefer to have the sinker trailing behind, so that if it does find a snag it's more easily broken free - and if it's more or less at your feet (as sometimes happens) the fish is easier to get to, rather than being several feet behind (perhaps over a ledge) where you can't get at it.
For these reasons my go-to rough ground rig is about 3ft of 50lb Maxima tied to the same swivel as about 4ft of 80lb rig-body, which has a rotten-bottom length of weak line (usually 15lb Amnesia which can be snapped easily, although I'll sometimes use stronger if I think I'm throwing away a few too many sinkers!). Far rather lose a few weights though than fish, especially as I fish a lot of comps. If I need a clip-down rig then it's much the same except I'll make rig / snood length the same and attach an Imp, with a rotter & weak-line set up as before.
Gary
For these reasons my go-to rough ground rig is about 3ft of 50lb Maxima tied to the same swivel as about 4ft of 80lb rig-body, which has a rotten-bottom length of weak line (usually 15lb Amnesia which can be snapped easily, although I'll sometimes use stronger if I think I'm throwing away a few too many sinkers!). Far rather lose a few weights though than fish, especially as I fish a lot of comps. If I need a clip-down rig then it's much the same except I'll make rig / snood length the same and attach an Imp, with a rotter & weak-line set up as before.
Gary
found pulleys work on more than rough ground there simple to make do the job you can clip them down and still lash it with a simple rotton bottom but if everyone liked the same it would be boring. The thing I like most is there fast to make and you can get one nice neat compact long bait on the pulley pennel
Juliogeordio
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Same for me Davy... I know a few lads who have issues with them but it is usually down to them being poorly made. Never had a single isssue at all lol.
Deans
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Iva-Cod-on
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Fixed pat is the way forward like clipped or not tried pulley rigs n don't rate then went back to basics!! Oh and anybody noticed the rigs mr stringer uses now that's not to be argued with IMO
g-force
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Yep, they're pretty much what I've used since starting in the late 70's - if it ain't broke etc....
Gary
Iva-Cod-on
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Yep, they're pretty much what I've used since starting in the late 70's - if it ain't broke etc....
Gary
Bang on mate
Deans
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apparent no matter what rig people use they become convinced it will do.
interesting why some of the northern lads use a simple rig with a shorter main body and longer snood.
most lads ive spoke to who have ditched the pulley because they are poor on retrieve, I mean the lead hits a snag before the fish, resulting in lost fish.
the alternative rig mentioned with a long snood and short main body means fish below the sinker on retrieve doesn't it? resulting in a similar action to the pulley on retrieve?
better bite registration and initial hook up that's all eh?
retrieve same old action to the pulley............
interesting why some of the northern lads use a simple rig with a shorter main body and longer snood.
most lads ive spoke to who have ditched the pulley because they are poor on retrieve, I mean the lead hits a snag before the fish, resulting in lost fish.
the alternative rig mentioned with a long snood and short main body means fish below the sinker on retrieve doesn't it? resulting in a similar action to the pulley on retrieve?
better bite registration and initial hook up that's all eh?
retrieve same old action to the pulley............
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lead chucker
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Hmmm a pulley with a 600mm rig body and a 400mm hook snood works well if fish is heavier than lead, the lead pulls up out of way on top swivel keeping out the way and fish comes out last sliding through the kelp, don't get last post??
lead chucker
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well weight will hit a snag on any rig, but see your point
GEORDIE H
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Pulley rig best thing since sliced bread good all rounder( heavy ground/clean ground/mixed ground/) I also use a double pulley rig for distance work while scratching.
Both baits clipped down on one baitclip.
These rigs used to be called self hookers + thats what they are gives the fish time to consume the bait without resistance.
Just my opinion i cant fault them in 35 years of match fishing + pleasure.
Both baits clipped down on one baitclip.
These rigs used to be called self hookers + thats what they are gives the fish time to consume the bait without resistance.
Just my opinion i cant fault them in 35 years of match fishing + pleasure.
Deans
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to make this more simple.
pulley....bite1. (weak rotten bottom) slack liner, WIND INTO THE ROD, fish on, wind like hell fish on.
then half way in top sinker on pulley hits the top of a snag.
--- rotten bottom eventually breaks away but fish has enough slack to get away
pulley bite 2. (stronger rotten bottom) slack liner, WIND INTO THE ROD, fish on, wind like hell fish on
then half way in top sinker hits snag and stronger rottom snags resulting in lost fish eventually
---- rotten bottom is too strong to release
pulley bite 3. really weak rotten bottom. initial bite good but not enough resistance against fish to hook up as rotten snapped too early
normal rig=. initial bite positive. WIND INTO THE FISH . rotton bottom will snap straight away. fish on, play the fish in, no plain lead or gripper to worry about .
basically, fish is hooked quicker and lead is ejected straight away meaning less traffic on retrieve . SIMPLES
pulley....bite1. (weak rotten bottom) slack liner, WIND INTO THE ROD, fish on, wind like hell fish on
. then half way in top sinker on pulley hits the top of a snag.
--- rotten bottom eventually breaks away but fish has enough slack to get away
pulley bite 2. (stronger rotten bottom) slack liner, WIND INTO THE ROD, fish on, wind like hell fish on
then half way in top sinker hits snag and stronger rottom snags resulting in lost fish eventually
---- rotten bottom is too strong to release
pulley bite 3. really weak rotten bottom. initial bite good but not enough resistance against fish to hook up as rotten snapped too early
normal rig=. initial bite positive. WIND INTO THE FISH . rotton bottom will snap straight away. fish on, play the fish in, no plain lead or gripper to worry about .
basically, fish is hooked quicker and lead is ejected straight away meaning less traffic on retrieve . SIMPLES
Speaks for itself plus I think there good for live baiting
Deans
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yeh m8, nee doubt youd of done it any rig.
couple of opens meself
still wreckon there is preferable rigs in the kelp.
by the way, im dew 300 7oz leads marra for next season
Codcodcod!
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I don't use them. Not to say I wouldn't use them. Just confident in what I use at the moment.
Lots of the south coast lads use them for rays etc.. And I know a lot of seaham lads use them also.. So can't be that bad?!
Rigs to me are about getting the bait in the water intact. Snood length, hook size, type, bait, and knowledge are
much more important IMO.
Lots of the south coast lads use them for rays etc.. And I know a lot of seaham lads use them also.. So can't be that bad?!
Rigs to me are about getting the bait in the water intact. Snood length, hook size, type, bait, and knowledge are
much more important IMO.
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