Gps

[northeast1]

Any other ideas on a colour gps plotter capable of doing what a fisherman wants in and around the £150-£350 figure?

Dolly and Cok-tease had the Garmin 182 (i think) so used to them and like them...pritty sure it was a 182c but maybe you can remember Norman.

 

[mark]

you might want to work backwards. decide what cartography you want then see what units you can get that take those cards

off the current crop, standard horizon seem pretty good

 

[RobinHood]

Dolly had the 182c rich along with "Blue Chart" , very accurate and very good . Don't know if you can get them still though .

 

[northeast1]

yer you can but over £500...what is blue card again....i was told but forgot

 

[RobinHood]

Blue chart is the mapping system , it's like an Admiralty chart over-layed on to the plotter screen , bit expensive like .

 

[northeast1]

ok cheers.

So with out blue chart i take it you can still see alot of narks, wrecks and so on?

Just trying to get sorted as wish to fit a new one no later than thur as i have 3 weeks off work and wish to spend the last 2 fishing if the weather ok

 

[northeast1]

What you lot think of the Garmin 450?

If i understand it right it has WAAS and BLUE CHART built in as standard for £350ish...sems to cheap.....am i missing someting?

Main concerns are... it seems to do what the garmin 182c can do but £200 cheaper, just stumped on why

 

[KeithB]

What you lot think of the Garmin 450?

If i understand it right it has WAAS and BLUE CHART built in as standard for £350ish...sems to cheap.....am i missing someting?

Main concerns are... it seems to do what the garmin 182c can do but £200 cheaper, just stumped on why

Probably just progress Richie, IT & electronics drop in price on a daily basis.

Make sure you get a good warranty cos getting help after a couple of year is a nightmare.

 

[northeast1]

I been trying to find one all night online that will have the map so that u dont have to plot wrecks u can just click the mark and drive but also easy to map the many wrecks, colour and not a shocking price.

Be interested to know what people in the marine know how make of the Garmin 450...i am so close to saying go for it but holding back as kind of buying blind as i know sod all about them.

 

[mark]

waas is standard on everything these days. Blue chart just means it can accept blue chart cartridges - which you buy seperately. they are the things that put the charts on the plotter screen and show your position marked on a 'proper chart' displayed on the screen

other options are navionics and C-MAP cartridges

no matter what plotter you go for, the charts cartridges will be extra, although there are occasionally a few deals around. I bought a Cobra plotter for the Pans' as there was a deal throwing in the a C-Map megawide cartridge in for nowt which has every chart in the uk and ireland. Excellent plotter IMHO and was £450 quid if I remember rightly, but I reckon that was cheap given that allt he charts were included

expect to pay 100 quid give or take for a local chart cartridge, covering the north east coast, be that Navionics, bluechart or C-Map

the mega wide cartridges are about 250

 

[northeast1]

so if u dont get the chart card what would yo see on the srceen using the 450 as an example...i,e would it still show obstructions,spoiled ground, wrecks with out you plotting them.

Sorry for questions just cant get my head around the deal with the plotter and the maps

To me this is saying you have the blue charts preloaded and the new blue e2 is an option...see what u lot make of it


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[Norman]

no matter what you get rich you`ll still have to overlay your own marks ...... even though the charts show where wrecks are they are not accurate you will have to spend at least a full season going to the points you have and then do a search pattern to ascertain the true position then mark it on your own chart ,,,,,,

 

[mark]

you get a rough outline of the coast, and the navaids marked on it - lighthouses, buoys etc

thats it, no bottom contours, ground, wrecks etc etc

 

[mark]

no matter what you get rich you`ll still have to overlay your own marks ...... even though the charts show where wrecks are they are not accurate you will have to spend at least a full season going to the points you have and then do a search pattern to ascertain the true position then mark it on your own chart ,,,,,,

even the 'true' marks from someone else's plotter won't be 100% accurate, given the bit difference in accuracy from one unit to another, so you end up sniffing about then move the mark to its true position for that plotter, least thats what I've found when changing plotters anyway

they might only be a few metres different but that can be enough to miss a wreck entirely

 

[northeast1]

Ok just a fewsmall boats i have been on this year...if u zoom out on the plotter you can see wreck marks that the owner never inputted, then if you click on them and drive to them...most the time they show up.

I have all the long and lat's for marks, 6 pages infact just wanting to get a plotter with more pre-logged info.

That 450 does seem to have it but not 100% sure

 

[mark]

have a trip to storrars, they have a few models powered up on display in the shop so you can have a look at which cartography you prefer. at the end of the day all the chart cartridges are derived from admiralty charts, just displayed differently and some might have more detail than others, so the position of the things on them like wrecks will be the same on all of them

you can also get them to turn the charts off on one so you can see what you'd get without a cartridge

 

[northeast1]

ok cheers lads...last question...so on that link for the 450 would your understanding of the description be the same as mine....i.e "it comes with uk cartridge as standard" and the big question is..if you had £350 only what one would you buy?

 

[Charlie_Thompson]

can we get one of them plotters mark if we haven't already got one - I want a green one

 

[boblydon]

in my opinion most of the chart plotters on the market give you the same information and do the same thing, what you will pay more for is screen size ( bigger the better for clarity , and a slot for a user card also it may have a few extra functions, most of which you would not use.......also dont forget you may have 6 pages of wreck positions but dont waste your time plotting in the ones you will probally never go to ( ie more than 10 /12 offshore ).

Finnally my last word of advice is buy the best unit you can afford, with the biggest screen othewise you will allways regret it, afterall its a long term investment you can take from boat to boat if you wish, dont take into account its sonar capabilitys, buy a seperate sounder when funds permit.....if you want advice when fitting it give me a shout

 

[braine]

Have you looked at the Lowrance 5150C chartplotter? This comes complete with a nauticpath chart for the whole of the British Isles and a bit of Europe thrown in, all for £289.95. fully waterproof, 10,000 waypoints etc. It also takes the Navionics charts. The area roughly Berwick to Whitby in navionics is around £100 with the British Isles around 165 quid. 2 year warranty and the main service centre is in Edinburgh.
Easy to use and reliable with a 5" screen. you can download GDMS software for free to upload the marks you want and download any new ones you log so as to keep latest info as a backup. Accurate as well. I have used a Lowrance Globalmap LMS 320 that is a GPS/plotter/mapper/sonar with split screen facility for the last 5 years with no problems [B & W]. you can even record the sonar traces on it and download to a computer using free software again to show the wreck or bottom. From this you can take the position co-ordinates to make new marks. Thought about a new one but why change if it is working ok?