Non charter boat fishing, a newbie looking to learn.

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Dogrunner

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Evening fellas,

My first post on the boat side of NESA, hopefully it'll be the first of many over the coming months!

I'm looking for an opportunity and hoping someone on here may be able to help.

I've been fishing a short while now and love it. Almost all my fishing is from the shore with a little bit of uptiding thrown in this winter which I absolutely loved. I'd like to learn to fish properly from a boat - jigging, shads and bait fishing etc but really don't fancy the crowded messy charters. I don't necessarily have anything against them but would much rather be on a smaller boat with decent folk that I can learn from.

I'm absolutely not looking for a free lunch, in fact I'm allergic to them. I'm looking for a local smallish boat (Tyne and Wear area) that can possibly take the odd extra person (me) for the cost of fuel/running costs...etc. I'd actually be happy to pay slightly over the odds as to me this isn't about the money, it's about the experience and learning something new.

I'm not expecting many replies, in fact I mightn't get any at all. Maybe the post will draw a few suggestions that might give me a few pointers in the right direction.

Fingers crossed!
 
:)hopefully you will get the replies you need:)

should you not,and find yourself having to charter it might pay to join a club:exclam:
 
Dont write of the charters mind some great ones from Amble to Whitby, most of them very good and by chatting with the skippers or the crew you will pick up loads as they fish just about every day, if i go back to not having my own boat i will have no problems at all about being on a charter boat.
 
Good post, M8

I am a useless skipper and angler but I do have a boat moored at Sunderland Marina.

I take you if you want to risk your life, reputation and catch nothing!
:)
:cool:
 
sapph33

sapph33

putting a post on here like that asking non chartered boats to take you out and pay them two, that's why us chartered boats are going out half full ?
 
sapph33 said:
putting a post on here like that asking non chartered boats to take you out and pay them two, that's why us chartered boats are going out half full ?
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The reason charters are going out half full is because there is NO FISH, or the hot spots have dried up or when there is fish the skipper can't get on them or loads of other reasons etc etc.

This lad genuinely wants to learn and doesn't want to go on a charter to do it ! and is willing to donate to a fuel bill (these days you would expect that)

There is nowt worse when someone comes on a deck with no clue, starts fishing and pulling people in all day without knowing why or what to do, thats not good for a charter business in fact it does put people off.

He would be more 1 to 1 on a private boat, but lets not forget he will only learn what the others know, if they are good anglers with knowledge then he's scored if they aren't so keen then it will take him longer to get there.

The OP has offered to donate to a fuel cost, so its not cost driven, its purely his learning and confidence of what to do and use in a more private way, once he gets there you'll probably find he will start trying a few charters.

I cannot agree with your dig at him for his logical way of thinking.

Best of luck dogrunner, i am sure someone will get you fixed up

Paul
 
I wouldn't discount the charters either. We have learned loads from anglers we went out with and also the skippers. So much in fact that we now get frustrated when we are next to newbies, with leads that are too light, who keep tangling us! :)

There are plenty of Skippers who are happy to impart their knowledge(plus a few who aren't). We love chartering, even if I have still to master one part of the day - actually catching!

Kartonkel is being modest, he knows his stuff, so you should consider his kind offer and maybe soon you will have the confidence to go out on charters.
 
Thanks for all the replies so far, much appreciated. I sense I'm on the edge of a slightly sensitive issue here so will tread carefully.

Just wanted to point out that I'm not slagging charters saph33. I just want to learn and with the best will in the world with 10 or 12 on a charter boat the chances of someone taking a time out to show me a few ropes is possibly limited. There's always the possibility I could be left to plod on uselessly for a whole day learning nowt and I wouldn't enjoy that.

I'd be happy to fish on charter boat with a good crewman that is willing to help someone like me so if anyone wants to suggest a boat then great.

Like I said I'm looking to learn and to me there is no doubt that I would learn more on a smaller boat with one or 2 lads, just what I did when I came back to shore fishing after a 18 year absence (ironically a lad off this site helped me out and I still fish with him now).

Thanks again everyone especially to the lads that have offered to help out already, there are some brilliant people on this forum.

Cheers
 
I have got a small boat and still go on charters occasionally, because its a different kind of fishing.

Last time I was out on Sapph33 !
 
I think your spot on it can be frustrating being left to your own devices not knowing if your doing it right or wrong some skippers will make time to give you advice and help and some get frustrated with having a novice boat angler on board but at the end of the day everyone has to learn somewhere if you do find yourself looking for a charter boat try during the week when things a generally quieter and if you explain you don't have a lot of experience then i am sure you will find one willing to help .
 
Going out on NorthStar next Monday the 13th, why not join us, then I wont
be the only novice on the boat:D, Jim (victorclub) the skipper is always helpful and willing give advise.
 
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Going out on NorthStar next Monday the 13th, why not join us, then I wont
be the only novice on the boat:D, Jim (victorclub) the skipper is always helpful and willing give advise.
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Good luck on Monday Steve. Surely you will get into the fish this time, or I might have to send you my wooden spoon!
 
sapph33

sapph33

I was not have"n a dig at this guy I was point"n out the fact he was asking non chartered boats to take him out and he would pay them, As most anglers on here who have been out with me and I have lads on who have never fish or seen a fishing rod have help all day off me and my crewman and have come back again, How many times as a skipper been sat in the dock and watching a non chartered boat filling up and off they go, only place the skipper is going is home ?
 
I remember going out for the first time boat fishing and it was on a charter, I was basically left to do my own thing. Don't think I caught a thing (everyone else was) kept getting snagged, lost lots of gear etc etc. No one said a word to me but I heard the odd "ha he's snagged again" so of course this put me off.

I then had the chance to go out with someone on here (Stew) who without him knowing it, helped me a lot but that was just off me watching, talking and trying.

I can see it from both points, 'some' charters will just let people get on with it and say nothing (more so if it's a full boat) others do take the time to wonder around and help out which really is how it should be. Charters are taking folk out to fish not to just fish themselves. Of course charter boat full of people whom have been out before then no problem in doing some fishing but if someone needed help I would like to think the staff would be willing to help.

Can't comment on Sunderland charters, never tried them, yet. My first time out was from Hartlepool :)

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Was on a charter down south towards the end of last year and I was tempted to ask for my money back as I ended up helping a older chap who had never been boat fishing as the crew were to busy fishing. I don't know everything of course but stood with him telling to to reel up a bit when he was hitting bottom to avoid snags, line was going under the boat so telling him to reel in and start again to avoid other lines etc. 6 hour trip and spent around half just helping and talking to the chap, would not use that charter again that's for sure.
 
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I think that the thing that might upset some charter skippers is that the guy offered to pay towards fuel and running costs, because he wanted to show that he wasn't a freeloader. However if a private boat owner takes money towards running costs, then that becomes an illegal charter I believe.

Anyhow the original poster is just looking for some help with fishing, so no need to get into an argument about it.
 

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