"SAPPHIRE" Chartered Fishing Boat,Sunderland.

sapph33

sapph33

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Saturday 28th july, 5 oclock start 18 miles off fishing very slow only ling showing up to 13lb bout 10, and 2 cod not a very good day, And sunday once again 6 ANGLERS DID NOT TURN UP NO CALL NITE BEFORE OR SHOW NXT DAY THATS WHAT GETS ANGLERS A BAD NAME but you bring this on your selfs from now on its £10 dep for your trip out you don"t let me know of any drop"n out you will pay for them or you don"t go, For the 4 that did turn up we went out and they had cod to 10lb 4oz around 15 cod 3 ling well done lads,
 
well done to those lads,peter your right deposit none refundable you have a lively hood to make and those places could have been filled.i don't think they relies that your out of pocket fuel wise but there loss on a good days fishing.
 
its not right if people dont show for there trip
but i do wonder peter how will you collect deposits off each angler ?
just a question not a bebate !!
 
david.northeast said:
its not right if people dont show for there trip
but i do wonder peter how will you collect deposits off each angler ?
just a question not a bebate !!
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bad crack when your party dont show
name and shame them
pleased to see your keeping inside the legal limit of your 20 mile peter
think theres more fish in shore than off shore at the moment (plenty of feed )
 
billyturbot said:
bad crack when your party dont show
name and shame them
pleased to see your keeping inside the legal limit of your 20 mile peter think theres more fish in shore than off shore at the moment (plenty of feed )
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what a poisoneous little comment.

I dont think any of the Hartlepool/Sunderland or Tyne based skippers ever goes past 20 miles! Only the Whitby guys do it.

Peter, I would not name and shame and I would not take deposits from everybody.

What would I do:

A: Get a phone call from everyone the evening before (discussing weather etc)

B: Have a list of people who have ditched you and require a deposit, if they want to come again (paypal)

C: Have a list with customers, who can come short notice, even in the morning and take them for a cheaper prize for example
 
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good report, on the fish again peter m8, keep it going,

there`s been a problem with people droppin skippers in it for years, and there alway`s will be.
a had to drop out of a trip lately, for a hospital appointment, a wen`t and offered the lad who organised the trip my cost, and he would`nt have it, but a offered.

a do feel for you lads, as it`s your living, other than take deposit`s, a would`nt know how to get around this.
 
Kartonkel said:
what a poisoneous little comment.

I dont think any of the Hartlepool/Sunderland or Tyne based skippers ever goes past 20 miles! Only the Whitby guys do it.

Peter, I would not name and shame and I would not take deposits from everybody.

What would I do:

A: Get a phone call from everyone the evening before (discussing weather etc)

B: Have a list of people who have ditched you and require a deposit, if they want to come again (paypal)

C: Have a list with customers, who can come short notice, even in the morning and take them for a cheaper prize for example
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fact not fiction ,if a skipper is not licensed to go past the 20 mile mark he stays in side,also think you will find a lot of skippers stay within the 20 mile as thats what there licence allows ,and most the fish are within the 20 mile mark unless you know something different (think not)got to laugh at these guys can we go on the graveyard,why its not the right conditions the drift will be too fast ,its too lumpy,most the fish are closer in so after the steam out there no fish ,lads moaning ect ,as always Kartonkel, you speak out again ,how many boat trips you had out this month NOT MANY I BET
 
billyturbot said:
fact not fiction ,if a skipper is not licensed to go past the 20 mile mark he stays in side,also think you will find a lot of skippers stay within the 20 mile as thats what there licence allows ,and most the fish are within the 20 mile mark unless you know something different (think not)got to laugh at these guys can we go on the graveyard,why its not the right conditions the drift will be too fast ,its too lumpy,most the fish are closer in so after the steam out there no fish ,lads moaning ect ,as always Kartonkel, you speak out again ,how many boat trips you had out this month NOT MANY I BET
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I had 3 boat trips in the last 7 days.

I thought you threw your rule book away after you embarrassed yourself in the Sapphire saga and apologised for it ?!
 
"SAPPHIRE" Chartered Fishing Boat, Sunderland,

"SAPPHIRE" Chartered Fishing Boat, Sunderland,

I would just like to say it"s not up to anyone on this site to remind skippers on how far they can go out ? Now as for dep the angler will have 5 days from the day of call to send a dep if not recived he will lose the date he ask for, then its there money they loseing and not the skippers,
 
Used to fish out of Whitby years ago,when the fish seemed to be plentiful.
My mate who was organiser,would take a tenner from each of us (six including
himself),and send a cheque to the skipper as a deposit.These were party trips,so the boat was ours for the day,at a cost of 180 quid,so if anyone cried
off,it cost each of us a little more,the upside being more space.The skipper
always got paid regardless,which we all agreed was fair.If the weather was
particularly inclement on the day,or at least forecast to be,the skipper would
keep the deposit for our next trip out,and for the couple of years i fished on this
boat,everyone got on famously.I don't know if less people go out now,so you
need to cater for individual anglers,but as i say,if you party book a boat,you
should see less of this type of problem.
 
sapph33 said:
I would just like to say it"s not up to anyone on this site to remind skippers on how far they can go out ?,
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just nice to keep it legal peter thats all I said after all you do have a prohibiting order on you no further than 20 mile
 
My answer to the problem of people "not turning up", would be to CHARTER the boat. : ie set a total price for a day's fishing say for example £200.00. If anyone want's to charter the boat, this would be the cost between the whole party. So if the boat was licensed for 10 anglers, then assuming whoever books the boat wants to bring 10 people, the cost would be £20.00 per head. However, if more room is required, then whoever books it can say for example only bring 6 people, but the cost per head would then be £33.50 each (or thereabouts).
The point I am trying to make here, is it should be left up to the "booker" of the boat to organise his or her party for numbers, and make sure they get the money from them first. That way the onus is purely on the "booker".
Now I know people are thinking :"individual anglers could miss out here, if the boat is run on a charter basis"
The solution : If someone books the boat for say 8 people, the skipper could then ask him if he would be willing to add two other outsiders to his party, if anyone else was ring up and ask if there is a place on that particular day. This would keep the parties cost down, but would compremise on room. However if the booker wanted to keep the party down to 8, then that would be his choice, but obviously the cost per individual in his party would be more.
Sorry if this is long winded, but I used to charter a boat from Berwick, which was licensed for 12 people. However I always kept the number to only six. This doubled the price for each of us, but everyone agreed the massive amount of extra room was worth every penny. I also took the money from everyone who said they wanted to go before the trip. If someone then wanted to "drop out", it was up to them to arrange for another individual to go, so they could get their money back.
 
sapph33

sapph33

like i said billyturbot it"s got sod all to do with you bout what i do and how far i go, its bout time you kept mouth shut on what i do, if you want"n to cause some thing again fire away you seam to have a lot to say bout evey thing and evey one on here, if i want to take my boat to 100miles i will sod all to do with you, I don"t need you to remind me of a prohibiting order it was you who neally got me locked up, Am trying to make a liven here i have bills to pay as well, I think evey one on here is sick of you butting in,
 
sapph33 said:
like i said billyturbot it"s got sod all to do with you bout what i do and how far i go, its bout time you kept mouth shut on what i do, if you want"n to cause some thing again fire away you seam to have a lot to say bout evey thing and evey one on here, if i want to take my boat to 100miles i will sod all to do with you, I don"t need you to remind me of a prohibiting order it was you who neally got me locked up, Am trying to make a liven here i have bills to pay as well, I think evey one on here is sick of you butting in,
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I agree

However...who wants to go out further than 20 nm

Most boats steam at 15 kn. Going to a 25 nm wreck and back means that more than 3 hours of fishing is wasted without any higher chance to catch
 
it is getting a bit predictable on here now,

peter goe`s about his business, doing what he can to get his paying customers on the fish,

only for his every move/post or thread to get scrutanised by people,

have you upset people in another life......? only joking peter, just keep doin what your doin m8, good luck............!
 
sapph33

sapph33

I don"t know m8 evey time i take anglers out they seam ok to me chat"n away then at the end of the day they tell me they had a good day 85% have been come"n back, even taken them out dueing the week now on even trips as wkends are full and they want to get back, Am a angler myself use to fish on chartered boats so i know what the angler is looking for and if they catching i"ll give them bit more time free,
 

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