steppeydog
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hi lads am hoping t get a few boat trips in this summer n was wondering will my slosh 30 be ok for fishing with braid or will i need t buy another reel cheers
slosh 30
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I'm great believer in use what you have unless your trips become so regular to justify a dedicated reel.
I don't much like SL30SH reels but that aside you should discipline yourself to retrieve slow wheb using one on the boat.
It's high retrieve ratio is its own worst enemy when you have a good fish on or at depth.
Just my own thoughts.
It can be made to work.
I don't much like SL30SH reels but that aside you should discipline yourself to retrieve slow wheb using one on the boat.
It's high retrieve ratio is its own worst enemy when you have a good fish on or at depth.
Just my own thoughts.
It can be made to work.
<(Andy2009)>
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Slosh 30 should easily handle situations on the boat, has the power and the line capacity. I'm gonna use my Penn 535 Mag for some boat fishing this season, and that has the same gear ratio and rough size and should handle well too.
So to answer your question, yes, your slosh 30 should be fine for boat fishing.
am ganna be using my sl30sh on the boat, but wiil be remembering what persues has mentioned here , good point m8.
The only time a high retrieve ratio is of any use (to me) is when retrieving without a fish on, so that I can get the rig re-baited and out again.
With a fish on it's a bloody nuisance and with a big fish on it's possibly the quickest and easiest way of losing said fish.
Take a look at most boat fishing multipliers and you will see them designed with a much lower retrieve ratio, specifically for pulling big fish up without ripping hooks out or snapping leaders.
4.3:1 tends to be the norm for most boat fishing multipliers dropping through 3.x:1 to 2.9:1, 2.5:1 and even 2:1 for seriously heavy or big game reels.
A high retrieve ratio is all well and good, until you get into a decent fish...
Again, this is just my opinion and not a criticism of particular reels or of those who use them - your mileage may vary, but you can put the odds more in your favour by working with your existing kit's capabilities by altering your approach while using it.
Adopting a slower retrieve is difficult, but not impossible. Just don't start cranking like crazy of you get into a good fish
With a fish on it's a bloody nuisance and with a big fish on it's possibly the quickest and easiest way of losing said fish.
Take a look at most boat fishing multipliers and you will see them designed with a much lower retrieve ratio, specifically for pulling big fish up without ripping hooks out or snapping leaders.
4.3:1 tends to be the norm for most boat fishing multipliers dropping through 3.x:1 to 2.9:1, 2.5:1 and even 2:1 for seriously heavy or big game reels.
A high retrieve ratio is all well and good, until you get into a decent fish...
Again, this is just my opinion and not a criticism of particular reels or of those who use them - your mileage may vary, but you can put the odds more in your favour by working with your existing kit's capabilities by altering your approach while using it.
Adopting a slower retrieve is difficult, but not impossible. Just don't start cranking like crazy of you get into a good fish
<(Andy2009)>
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The only time a high retrieve ratio is of any use (to me) is when retrieving without a fish on, so that I can get the rig re-baited and out again.
With a fish on it's a bloody nuisance and with a big fish on it's possibly the quickest and easiest way of losing said fish.
Take a look at most boat fishing multipliers and you will see them designed with a much lower retrieve ratio, specifically for pulling big fish up without ripping hooks out or snapping leaders.
4.3:1 tends to be the norm for most boat fishing multipliers dropping through 3.x:1 to 2.9:1, 2.5:1 and even 2:1 for seriously heavy or big game reels.
A high retrieve ratio is all well and good, until you get into a decent fish...
Again, this is just my opinion and not a criticism of particular reels or of those who use them - your mileage may vary, but you can put the odds more in your favour by working with your existing kit's capabilities by altering your approach while using it.
Adopting a slower retrieve is difficult, but not impossible. Just don't start cranking like crazy of you get into a good fish
Yes, and theres a stupidly simple solution to the fast retrieve, just reel slower and at a steady and constant speed when playing a fish, its not hard
Yes, and theres a stupidly simple solution to the fast retrieve, just reel slower and at a steady and constant speed when playing a fish, its not hard
on the contrary andy,you would be amazed at how many people do find it difficult to use this piece of kit thats capable of much more,wisely, ie taking their time,and getting the fish
<(Andy2009)>
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A suppose when playing fish off the boat without the reel having a levelwind is fairly difficult but not hard.
I did this hauling big coalies up the cliff with my 535 at a constant speed, cant be much different than below the boat (except the fish will be in the water still and probably be much bigger with any luck)!
splishspash
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last season i used a slosh 30 with a fladen maxximus solid carbon 10-20lb on the wrecks and as Persues said i got buckled into a good ling a double by the way it was going and struggled for about five minutes with it giving it time to chew through doubled up 80lb trace lost it about 8 turns from the surface.personally i found the slosh was locking up a bit during the scrap.hope this helps.
the more a read these the more am worrying, good advice from all the lads, after last weeks boat trip a was thinking the two boat reels a have were`nt up to the job, so was ganna use me sl30sh. Not sure about that now, tackle shop me thinks. !
north east angler
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hi mate , i fished light most of last year just using a penn 525 bringing fish up to 22lb with no problems , so i dont see you having any problems with a slosh imo
harry barker
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Save your money mate,a slosh 30 is fine for boat fishing so it got a bit quicker
retrieve so what ????.
Watch a good wreck angler at work with a big fish on his line.....he's pumping the fish with his rod ie.quick winding the reel then dropping the rod and lifting the fish with the rod this method he will use most of the way up until the fish is almost at the surface.
Also when wreck fishing a quick retrieve reel would come in very handy to quickly get the big fish out of the tangle of the wreck.
The slosh 30 if loaded with a good quality braid x 60lb would be a lot lower on the spool even when mono is used as backing so the ratio would be slower
on retrieve anyway.
I use a slosh 30 with braid to fish for tope over the mull of Galloway and had these fish up to 58lb and never a problem with the reel,if fact the quicker retrieve helps keep in touch with these torpedoes when they turn and run towards you.
Great reels !!!!!
OuTkast76
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I fished on the jfk a while back with my 525 and it really struggled and was hard work... If your going to be using on a regular basis I would invest in a boat reel or your shore reels wont last as long as they should..just my opinion
<(Andy2009)>
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north east angler
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well i fished all last year on alans boat the jfk with my penn 525 and like i say i had fish up to 22lb with no problems and the reel is still spot on as longs you clean it up after every use .
I think the whole point here has to be to approach it with your eyes open, and factor in the type of fishing you will be doing and the possibilities it might bring.
There is no right or wrong or necessarily good or bad.
Some products are better suited to certain tasks than others.
All products can fail spectacularly or last a lifetime, regardless of price tag and regardless of whether they are used within spec.
If there are limiting factors it can be useful to know what they are, especially when such a simple workaround if often all that is required.
Sometimes it is easy to take the written word out of context as well.
Example: I will be boat fishing at some point this year with an old Abu 7000C Syncro on a 15lb class Ugly Stik, purely because it is the most suitable reel I own for the job on the only boat rod I own.
I won't be going out often enough to warrant buying a dedicated boat reel or another rod, and I used to have loads of fun on this sort of gear years ago with fish of only a few pounds.
The boat fishing I will be doing is going to be mostly inshore, not more than a couple of miles or so out. It's not impossible to hook into a monster but it is unlikely, so the reel should work fine - a SL30SH coud also work just as well under these circumstances, given a slower retrieve with a decent fish on. Neither one is ideal, but both can work.
If I was planning wrecking trips with the chance of hooking into something more substantial I'd gear up accordingly or run a higher chance of things going pear shaped.
That's basically what this is about - knowing where things could go wrong is most of the way towards ensuring that they don't go wrong.
And none of this is to say that they will go wrong.
Your approach often every bit is as important as they gear, in my opinion. Sometimes more-so, but knowing potential pitfalls is always helpful, which is worlds away from stating that it's just not going to work.
Hope you enjoy your trips as and when you get out there
There is no right or wrong or necessarily good or bad.
Some products are better suited to certain tasks than others.
All products can fail spectacularly or last a lifetime, regardless of price tag and regardless of whether they are used within spec.
If there are limiting factors it can be useful to know what they are, especially when such a simple workaround if often all that is required.
Sometimes it is easy to take the written word out of context as well.
Example: I will be boat fishing at some point this year with an old Abu 7000C Syncro on a 15lb class Ugly Stik, purely because it is the most suitable reel I own for the job on the only boat rod I own.
I won't be going out often enough to warrant buying a dedicated boat reel or another rod, and I used to have loads of fun on this sort of gear years ago with fish of only a few pounds.
The boat fishing I will be doing is going to be mostly inshore, not more than a couple of miles or so out. It's not impossible to hook into a monster but it is unlikely, so the reel should work fine - a SL30SH coud also work just as well under these circumstances, given a slower retrieve with a decent fish on. Neither one is ideal, but both can work.
If I was planning wrecking trips with the chance of hooking into something more substantial I'd gear up accordingly or run a higher chance of things going pear shaped.
That's basically what this is about - knowing where things could go wrong is most of the way towards ensuring that they don't go wrong.
And none of this is to say that they will go wrong.
Your approach often every bit is as important as they gear, in my opinion. Sometimes more-so, but knowing potential pitfalls is always helpful, which is worlds away from stating that it's just not going to work.
Hope you enjoy your trips as and when you get out there
OuTkast76
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Not the fact of cleaning it after every use, its not designed to be used on a boat and in my opinion not suitable
