chrismorris
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cheers for the info jason fancy having a crack at them this weekend
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Lol, Richy......\"no one might catch any .....\"
You could be talkin\' about ANY species there. m8, as far as I\'m concerned....lol
You could be talkin\' about ANY species there. m8, as far as I\'m concerned....lol
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A word of warning about posting any Bass catches, It may lead to commercials hammering them if and when they appear.
amazing what you can do with a camera 
mark
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morecambe bay by the power station has lots of em, but agian, would you want to eat them......
they seem to like warmer water so I guess anywhere there is anoutfall has to increase your chances, Alcan would probably be one of the best place locally, they might not be quite so radiaoactive as well.
Never caught one bait fishing, but spinning has worked for me, usually with something with a bit of weigh to it. Never had much success with surface poppers and the like, but the bulletty things that sink fast and deep diving plugs have worked well. Caught a few in NW scotland that waay. I guess the gulf stream helps.
Last year there was a shoal of mackeral under my feet in the gulley we usually fish and found if I let the lure hit the bottom (If it made it through the mackeral that it is), leave it motion less for a bit and then start the retrieve, there were bass under the mackeral picking off the mackeral. The hard bit was getting through the mackeral in the first place though.
Have my own fly pattern which worked really well for em as well, if any one wants the low down on that one let me know. Again let it hit the bottom first - sinking lines and a weighted fly. Tremendous sport and great fun on a light trout rod
they seem to like warmer water so I guess anywhere there is anoutfall has to increase your chances, Alcan would probably be one of the best place locally, they might not be quite so radiaoactive as well.
Never caught one bait fishing, but spinning has worked for me, usually with something with a bit of weigh to it. Never had much success with surface poppers and the like, but the bulletty things that sink fast and deep diving plugs have worked well. Caught a few in NW scotland that waay. I guess the gulf stream helps.
Last year there was a shoal of mackeral under my feet in the gulley we usually fish and found if I let the lure hit the bottom (If it made it through the mackeral that it is), leave it motion less for a bit and then start the retrieve, there were bass under the mackeral picking off the mackeral. The hard bit was getting through the mackeral in the first place though.
Have my own fly pattern which worked really well for em as well, if any one wants the low down on that one let me know. Again let it hit the bottom first - sinking lines and a weighted fly. Tremendous sport and great fun on a light trout rod
mark
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not long after this topic being debated last year, and around the same time the Sea Dangler mag was talking about bass at sandsend, I was at the abbey in whitby, and counted nearly a dozen boats gill netting from the pier to sandsend, some less than a hundred yards from the shore, that one day must have pretty much wiped out every bass there was.
chrismorris
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cheers mark could i fly fish for them at morecambe bay not bothered about eating them just fancy catching some bass for the sport mate
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My wife got me a RT Titanium Bass rod last Christmas, and all this talk of targetting Bass has really got me itching to try it out.
What\'s the best time of year to try for them?
What\'s the best time of year to try for them?
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Just found this on the \'net.
You might find it intereesting......
http://www.hartflyfishing.demon.co.uk/bass_fishing.html
You might find it intereesting......
http://www.hartflyfishing.demon.co.uk/bass_fishing.html
mark
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alan,
these are my most successful patterns. lots of epoxy needed, you need to keep rotating the hook as the epoxy sets or it\'ll end up lumpy - haven\'t noticed the fish beeing too bothered by that tho.
The tails need a good amount of crystal flash:
http://www.fly-fishing-tackle.co.uk/acatalog/Flash_Materials.html
some good grizzle hackles, but not essential, although having the feather there puts a more natural movement in the tail.
The top ones are on 4/0 o\'shaughnessy\'s, and yes they work on hooks that big. bass attack sand eels head first apparently and I found that forming the head nearer to the bend gets a better take up, although on the big ones, I whip aome 15lb mono on before I start and trail a size 4 or 6 treble towards the end of the tail, just in case and have taken a few fish on the second hook
first thing I put on the hook is a good wrap of lead wire, ok I\'m cheap and use solder, (if you use baitholder hooks, the nicks in them help hold it in place till your done) next build up a body with the tying thread, tying in whatever you are using. I often wrap some of the crystal or tinsel around the body prior to the epoxy as it shows well through the glue when it sets (use the 90 sec or 5min epoxy or you\'ll be up all night)
some have a bit of marabou in them as well to bulk it out.
the middle ones are made of mylar tubing - basically shiny braid but big. Haberdashery shops are good for a lot of the materials and cost a fraction of the price in a tackle shop. Look for piping cord its basically mylar tubing with a cotton core which pulls out. The stick on eyes are much cheaper in a habby shop also..
whip the braid on and rub a little epoxy in to stiffen it. shove a bit of feather/marabou in the tail end, whip it on and glue it as well.
when there\'s nowt happening I\'ll go down to the smaller sizes, those at the botton are tied on 1\'s and 2\'s
a good starting point is take some hookais, chop off a hook, whip some extra tail materials in and the epoxy the whole thing.
some have hair in them, again being cheap, instead of buying coarse deer hair, my dog gives me a ready supply of almost identical hair for no more than a pat on the head and the occasional chocolate biccy
if any one fancies a go I still have a full kit of all the tools and materials in the trading post waiting for an offer!
[Edited on 7/3/2004 by mark]
these are my most successful patterns. lots of epoxy needed, you need to keep rotating the hook as the epoxy sets or it\'ll end up lumpy - haven\'t noticed the fish beeing too bothered by that tho.
The tails need a good amount of crystal flash:
http://www.fly-fishing-tackle.co.uk/acatalog/Flash_Materials.html
some good grizzle hackles, but not essential, although having the feather there puts a more natural movement in the tail.
The top ones are on 4/0 o\'shaughnessy\'s, and yes they work on hooks that big. bass attack sand eels head first apparently and I found that forming the head nearer to the bend gets a better take up, although on the big ones, I whip aome 15lb mono on before I start and trail a size 4 or 6 treble towards the end of the tail, just in case and have taken a few fish on the second hook
first thing I put on the hook is a good wrap of lead wire, ok I\'m cheap and use solder, (if you use baitholder hooks, the nicks in them help hold it in place till your done) next build up a body with the tying thread, tying in whatever you are using. I often wrap some of the crystal or tinsel around the body prior to the epoxy as it shows well through the glue when it sets (use the 90 sec or 5min epoxy or you\'ll be up all night)
some have a bit of marabou in them as well to bulk it out.
the middle ones are made of mylar tubing - basically shiny braid but big. Haberdashery shops are good for a lot of the materials and cost a fraction of the price in a tackle shop. Look for piping cord its basically mylar tubing with a cotton core which pulls out. The stick on eyes are much cheaper in a habby shop also..
whip the braid on and rub a little epoxy in to stiffen it. shove a bit of feather/marabou in the tail end, whip it on and glue it as well.
when there\'s nowt happening I\'ll go down to the smaller sizes, those at the botton are tied on 1\'s and 2\'s
a good starting point is take some hookais, chop off a hook, whip some extra tail materials in and the epoxy the whole thing.
some have hair in them, again being cheap, instead of buying coarse deer hair, my dog gives me a ready supply of almost identical hair for no more than a pat on the head and the occasional chocolate biccy
if any one fancies a go I still have a full kit of all the tools and materials in the trading post waiting for an offer!
[Edited on 7/3/2004 by mark]
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BRILLIANT, them Mark :exclam:
Well impressed
Well impressed
mark
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They are really easy to tie. mainly cos the hooks are big - if you want to something really impressive, I\'ve now managed to get my dry flies down to a size 18 - complete with ribbed body, tails wings and thorax, in the time it takes me to make something that small I can knock out half a dozen or more of the big uns.
If I think about I\'d say my hit rate is about 20 to 1. For every 20 fish caught, one will be bass on average. Pollack.. they\'re the other 19 when there\'s no mackeral around, and they best fun its possible to have with a fishing rod. I started out with a geet big 10foot 9 weight rod, but its not needed, I now use my trusty old Hardy 9footer, and a 7 foot brook rod. It is a bit wierd when I\'ve been on the beach chuck 6oz plus bait in from a 13foot greys/slosh combination during the day then spend the evening casting these things - the heaviest weighs a mere 5grams.
I caught a 2lb mackeral last summer that took 15 minutes to land on the brook rod, which is about the diameter of a licorice bootlace and not much heavier.
Problem in these parts is where to go, the piers are too high and the beaches too crowded. I\'ve been toying with having a look up towards dunstanborough castle this summer from the rocks.
Now, from a small boat a couple of hundred yards from shields pier (just out of range of lead and daylites), you could have a whale of a time, a mackeral every cast, and a long fight to get each one in.
Up in scotland at easter so will be having a go from a boat at a new mark one of the locals has finally given up to me. I\'ve seen him go out time after time and come back with a big basket of all sorts.
About a mile offshore from where we go there is an under water pinnacle, 80 meteres deep one side, 60 metres on the other and 300 metres long. At low water you can see the kelp on top of it.
So I\'ll be giving the fly rod a blast for the pollack and hopefully showing em how itsdone with a string of hokkais and redgills, which none of them had ever seen till last summer when I went out with them. (one of em still uses a scarborough reel!)
There\'s big bass one side or the other depending on which way the tide is running, big pollack, cod, haddock, and I\'ve even seen them bring hake and halibut back in.
there\'s also something called a \'torsk\' they seem to like, they rave about em - I\'ve never heard of em
If I think about I\'d say my hit rate is about 20 to 1. For every 20 fish caught, one will be bass on average. Pollack.. they\'re the other 19 when there\'s no mackeral around, and they best fun its possible to have with a fishing rod. I started out with a geet big 10foot 9 weight rod, but its not needed, I now use my trusty old Hardy 9footer, and a 7 foot brook rod. It is a bit wierd when I\'ve been on the beach chuck 6oz plus bait in from a 13foot greys/slosh combination during the day then spend the evening casting these things - the heaviest weighs a mere 5grams.
I caught a 2lb mackeral last summer that took 15 minutes to land on the brook rod, which is about the diameter of a licorice bootlace and not much heavier.
Problem in these parts is where to go, the piers are too high and the beaches too crowded. I\'ve been toying with having a look up towards dunstanborough castle this summer from the rocks.
Now, from a small boat a couple of hundred yards from shields pier (just out of range of lead and daylites), you could have a whale of a time, a mackeral every cast, and a long fight to get each one in.
Up in scotland at easter so will be having a go from a boat at a new mark one of the locals has finally given up to me. I\'ve seen him go out time after time and come back with a big basket of all sorts.
About a mile offshore from where we go there is an under water pinnacle, 80 meteres deep one side, 60 metres on the other and 300 metres long. At low water you can see the kelp on top of it.
So I\'ll be giving the fly rod a blast for the pollack and hopefully showing em how itsdone with a string of hokkais and redgills, which none of them had ever seen till last summer when I went out with them. (one of em still uses a scarborough reel!)
There\'s big bass one side or the other depending on which way the tide is running, big pollack, cod, haddock, and I\'ve even seen them bring hake and halibut back in.
there\'s also something called a \'torsk\' they seem to like, they rave about em - I\'ve never heard of em
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I thought \"Torsk\" was the Scandanavian name for Cod ???
I know I haven\'t posted for ages but have still been keeping upto date with all the goings on, and thought you might like to know about my little bass expedition last Thursday.
Fishing Dunnet beach (which has to be about the most northerly beach on the mainland for catching bass, well Dunnet Head is the most northerly point), with a fair amount of surf coming in. Both me and Paula caught a bass each mine just size Paula\'s just under, both caught on lug/squid cocktails, then the weed came in and made it totally unfishable. Hoping that the next few days of gales will clear the bay out of weed so that we can give it another go.
Oh yes and when the beach became unfishable moved further round the bay to our favourite little harbour and had fun with lots of codling all under size but nice to see them around.
And the one good thing about the beach nobodys going to come in to net them as we have a salmon river here so as you can imagine they are very protective about who comes around netting in the sea
Stuart
Fishing Dunnet beach (which has to be about the most northerly beach on the mainland for catching bass, well Dunnet Head is the most northerly point), with a fair amount of surf coming in. Both me and Paula caught a bass each mine just size Paula\'s just under, both caught on lug/squid cocktails, then the weed came in and made it totally unfishable. Hoping that the next few days of gales will clear the bay out of weed so that we can give it another go.
Oh yes and when the beach became unfishable moved further round the bay to our favourite little harbour and had fun with lots of codling all under size but nice to see them around.
And the one good thing about the beach nobodys going to come in to net them as we have a salmon river here so as you can imagine they are very protective about who comes around netting in the sea
Stuart
