MarinerKenny
Well-known member
Time for a massive overhaul at the club - starting with getting rid of that w@nker of a charman and manager.
Although Craig Bellamy was wrong for saying what he did on air, I for one agree with every word he said - and If they are honest I bet athe majority of fans do too.
If they get rid of Bellars, then they are idiots - he runs his bloody legs off for that team, and who they goona put in his position like - $hite Ameobe ? - who at best would be ok in Div 1 or buy a second rate striker from a first division team - Portsmouth ?
If they insist on getting rid, at least sell him for a worthwhile sum - todays prices should bring about 10 million.
Personally, I would keep him - we don\'t have anyone to replace him with.
The club is a farce - I am going to trade my black & white stripes for the red & white stripes.....NOT !
But honestly, this club just gets worse :casstet:
I Hope the fans are going to vent their anger in todays cup game against Coventry. That would have been a great game for Bellers to take part in - with Coventry being his old club.
Tell you, that Tw@t Shephard is walking a thin line - I hope his life is made as uncomfortable as possible, the great fat slimey faced tosser - he is a disgrace to football - Oi w@nker, just leave our club and get back to your off shore job - th further offshore the better
And just don\'t get me started on that Scottish tw@t in charge of the team - What a load of toss that bloke talks - Bellamy has tried his hardest to disrupt the team since he took the managers job? - well get this, maybe it\'s because he, like the majority of the fans think you are an over rated nob. You were at your level at Blackburn Rovers, why didn\'t you just stop there and drag them down - like you seem to do at every club you go to
One piece of good news though, and I think it is just to try and keep the fans happy and cover up the goings on at present, is that Terry Mac is coming back to the club
Don\'t know what his duties in training will be, but hopefully it will be to replace that tosser Souness.
Right - think I need to chill !!!
Although Craig Bellamy was wrong for saying what he did on air, I for one agree with every word he said - and If they are honest I bet athe majority of fans do too.
If they get rid of Bellars, then they are idiots - he runs his bloody legs off for that team, and who they goona put in his position like - $hite Ameobe ? - who at best would be ok in Div 1 or buy a second rate striker from a first division team - Portsmouth ?
If they insist on getting rid, at least sell him for a worthwhile sum - todays prices should bring about 10 million.
Personally, I would keep him - we don\'t have anyone to replace him with.
The club is a farce - I am going to trade my black & white stripes for the red & white stripes.....NOT !
But honestly, this club just gets worse :casstet:
I Hope the fans are going to vent their anger in todays cup game against Coventry. That would have been a great game for Bellers to take part in - with Coventry being his old club.
Tell you, that Tw@t Shephard is walking a thin line - I hope his life is made as uncomfortable as possible, the great fat slimey faced tosser - he is a disgrace to football - Oi w@nker, just leave our club and get back to your off shore job - th further offshore the better
And just don\'t get me started on that Scottish tw@t in charge of the team - What a load of toss that bloke talks - Bellamy has tried his hardest to disrupt the team since he took the managers job? - well get this, maybe it\'s because he, like the majority of the fans think you are an over rated nob. You were at your level at Blackburn Rovers, why didn\'t you just stop there and drag them down - like you seem to do at every club you go to
One piece of good news though, and I think it is just to try and keep the fans happy and cover up the goings on at present, is that Terry Mac is coming back to the club
Don\'t know what his duties in training will be, but hopefully it will be to replace that tosser Souness.
Right - think I need to chill !!!
mark
Well-known member
can\'t disagree with a single point kenny.
It saddens me deeply to see whats happening. Its back to the old days, we might as well have gordon MckEag and Stan Seymour back.
since KK left, and if you believe the stories, it wasn\'t his descision, how many managers thow the towel in when second from top of the prem have just put at hatful of gaols past spurs... the board should be shot with sh it.
Bellamy might have a gob on him, but nobody can doubt the lads commitment when on the park. Sousness??? soon as I heard of his appointment, I just say Dalglish mk2 and my heart sank
douglas hall and freddie shepherd run the club for their own benefit, not for the game.
I was one of the many that got shafted by the bond debacle and have not set foot in the place since.
birmingham have got a bargain, I hope he copmes back and gets a hat trick against us, its the best we deserve. mid table finish if we are lucky this season, next season I doubt we\'ll do as well. there\'ll be no shearer, shola blows hot and cold, kluivert is un proven. They want us to dig deep for increased season tickets nexy year, but there will be no spending for new players. souness will be allowed to spend what ever he can make by selling. If you take 6 million for bellamy, what does that make the rest worth?? a million or 2 at most.
late 70\'s obscurity here we come
It would be nice to think the souness will get the heave ho at the end of a mediocre season and if terry mac is there, he be allowed to have a crack at it. No way can he do worse than the anfield cast offs and gullit.
I reckon bob murray and freddie shepherd are the same person. sunderland need rid of him as much as we need rid of fat freddie
in the mean time it looks like the only hope for north east football rests with the boro.
Here\'s hoping they turn it on tommorow
It saddens me deeply to see whats happening. Its back to the old days, we might as well have gordon MckEag and Stan Seymour back.
since KK left, and if you believe the stories, it wasn\'t his descision, how many managers thow the towel in when second from top of the prem have just put at hatful of gaols past spurs... the board should be shot with sh it.
Bellamy might have a gob on him, but nobody can doubt the lads commitment when on the park. Sousness??? soon as I heard of his appointment, I just say Dalglish mk2 and my heart sank
douglas hall and freddie shepherd run the club for their own benefit, not for the game.
I was one of the many that got shafted by the bond debacle and have not set foot in the place since.
birmingham have got a bargain, I hope he copmes back and gets a hat trick against us, its the best we deserve. mid table finish if we are lucky this season, next season I doubt we\'ll do as well. there\'ll be no shearer, shola blows hot and cold, kluivert is un proven. They want us to dig deep for increased season tickets nexy year, but there will be no spending for new players. souness will be allowed to spend what ever he can make by selling. If you take 6 million for bellamy, what does that make the rest worth?? a million or 2 at most.
late 70\'s obscurity here we come
It would be nice to think the souness will get the heave ho at the end of a mediocre season and if terry mac is there, he be allowed to have a crack at it. No way can he do worse than the anfield cast offs and gullit.
I reckon bob murray and freddie shepherd are the same person. sunderland need rid of him as much as we need rid of fat freddie
in the mean time it looks like the only hope for north east football rests with the boro.
Here\'s hoping they turn it on tommorow
Kenny I supported the Toon when they were crap,had no money,slipping down the divisions,ground half empty need I go on.Nah Shepherd is no Saint,he\'d done things and said things he no doubt regrets but he has the club at heart,they\'ve got the best and most loyal supporters in the country,one of the best grounds which is always full unlike other local clubs and on paper some of the best players in the country.Give Souness a break,he might turn out to be a duffer but lets wait and see.Time for a massive overhaul at the club - starting with getting rid of that w@nker of a charman and manager.
Although Craig Bellamy was wrong for saying what he did on air, I for one agree with every word he said - and If they are honest I bet athe majority of fans do too.
If they get rid of Bellars, then they are idiots - he runs his bloody legs off for that team, and who they goona put in his position like - $hite Ameobe ? - who at best would be ok in Div 1 or buy a second rate striker from a first division team - Portsmouth ?
If they insist on getting rid, at least sell him for a worthwhile sum - todays prices should bring about 10 million.
Personally, I would keep him - we don\'t have anyone to replace him with.
The club is a farce - I am going to trade my black & white stripes for the red & white stripes.....NOT !
But honestly, this club just gets worse :casstet:
I Hope the fans are going to vent their anger in todays cup game against Coventry. That would have been a great game for Bellers to take part in - with Coventry being his old club.
Tell you, that Tw@t Shephard is walking a thin line - I hope his life is made as uncomfortable as possible, the great fat slimey faced tosser - he is a disgrace to football - Oi w@nker, just leave our club and get back to your off shore job - th further offshore the better
And just don\'t get me started on that Scottish tw@t in charge of the team - What a load of toss that bloke talks - Bellamy has tried his hardest to disrupt the team since he took the managers job? - well get this, maybe it\'s because he, like the majority of the fans think you are an over rated nob. You were at your level at Blackburn Rovers, why didn\'t you just stop there and drag them down - like you seem to do at every club you go to
One piece of good news though, and I think it is just to try and keep the fans happy and cover up the goings on at present, is that Terry Mac is coming back to the club
Don\'t know what his duties in training will be, but hopefully it will be to replace that tosser Souness.
Right - think I need to chill !!!
Remember theres only six top clubs in this country and the Toon is one of them,performance,supporters,revenue, European Qualification.
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Personally, I would keep him - we don\'t have anyone to replace him with.
The club is a farce - I am going to trade my black & white stripes for the red & white stripes.....NOT !
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Would you honestly employ someone like that,he gets paid 40k a week,he\'s also been arrested and charged a few times,he\'s injury prone and is dis-loyal to his work colleagues.Sounds like the ideal employee !
He\'s not the only one before someone jumps in there !
Personally, I would keep him - we don\'t have anyone to replace him with.
The club is a farce - I am going to trade my black & white stripes for the red & white stripes.....NOT !
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Would you honestly employ someone like that,he gets paid 40k a week,he\'s also been arrested and charged a few times,he\'s injury prone and is dis-loyal to his work colleagues.Sounds like the ideal employee !
He\'s not the only one before someone jumps in there !
MarinerKenny
Well-known member
Alan, European Qualification ? Only way we will be in Europe next season is if there\'s a war. 
mark
Well-known member
don\'t agree that the toon are one of th top 6 clubs. For me football is about football, not share prices, revenue and how much back slapping the directors are capable.
Its about football, and as such we are not even in the top ten anymore. Claiming to be a top 6 club based on revenue etc is a very dangerous position for the directors to pursue.
Quick crash on the stock market and where are we then?? from an economic point of view nearly insolvent. If you look at Assets versus Liabilities, what are our assets, Ok capital assets, St James etc, but lets face it in a cash crisis its not an asset that can be sold. what else then, players?? that is the only liquid asset the club have and all told, what 50million for the whole squad?? that gets you 2 world class palyers these days.
Liabilities however is a far more dangerous area, look at the wage bill for a start, it wouldn\'t take much of a change in economic climate to push the toon and many other premiership sides over the edge, just look at what happened at leeds. On paper they were a top 10 club 5 years ago, healthy share price etc, 3 years later they are in administration.
all of which has nothing to do with football and everything to do with accountants,
so whilst on paper, today it might look like a top 6 club, unless they can deliver on the field and weather any financial crisis they are unlikely to stay a top 6 club.
In my view what we have seen shepherd and hall doing over the last 5 years is trying to stave off that slide, at the cost of the team. If tey were that dedicated to the betterment of NUFC they need to put their hands in their pockets - as does bob murray at sunderland. Lets face it all these guys are multi-multi millionaires, yet they aren\'t prepared to invest in a club they profess to love.
From an accounting point of view, any money they do throw in from their own personal pots is fairly secure, tax deducatable, and if they believe in the club a sound investment.
Why did the sell woodgate?? Was he bad boy who mouthed off?? No, OK he\'d be in bother, but that was before he came to the toon, If he was a bad lad why did we buy him.
They flogged him because they saw an opportunity to increase their dividends, and whats worse for a man who professes to love the club, he was sold without even telling bobby robson!
Its about football, and as such we are not even in the top ten anymore. Claiming to be a top 6 club based on revenue etc is a very dangerous position for the directors to pursue.
Quick crash on the stock market and where are we then?? from an economic point of view nearly insolvent. If you look at Assets versus Liabilities, what are our assets, Ok capital assets, St James etc, but lets face it in a cash crisis its not an asset that can be sold. what else then, players?? that is the only liquid asset the club have and all told, what 50million for the whole squad?? that gets you 2 world class palyers these days.
Liabilities however is a far more dangerous area, look at the wage bill for a start, it wouldn\'t take much of a change in economic climate to push the toon and many other premiership sides over the edge, just look at what happened at leeds. On paper they were a top 10 club 5 years ago, healthy share price etc, 3 years later they are in administration.
all of which has nothing to do with football and everything to do with accountants,
so whilst on paper, today it might look like a top 6 club, unless they can deliver on the field and weather any financial crisis they are unlikely to stay a top 6 club.
In my view what we have seen shepherd and hall doing over the last 5 years is trying to stave off that slide, at the cost of the team. If tey were that dedicated to the betterment of NUFC they need to put their hands in their pockets - as does bob murray at sunderland. Lets face it all these guys are multi-multi millionaires, yet they aren\'t prepared to invest in a club they profess to love.
From an accounting point of view, any money they do throw in from their own personal pots is fairly secure, tax deducatable, and if they believe in the club a sound investment.
Why did the sell woodgate?? Was he bad boy who mouthed off?? No, OK he\'d be in bother, but that was before he came to the toon, If he was a bad lad why did we buy him.
They flogged him because they saw an opportunity to increase their dividends, and whats worse for a man who professes to love the club, he was sold without even telling bobby robson!
MarinerKenny
Well-known member
Oh well, looks like our FA Cup run is going to come to a premature end - we have been drawn to Chelskea !
mark
Well-known member
in my utopian view of the world, all NE clubs would be permanent fixture of the top ten in the prem, but until there is a huge ground change in attitudes from the money men thats not going to happen. Maybe a nice big stock market crash would send em running and let the game get back to what its about,
willywetegg
Administrator
Kenny from another Sunderland follower, I hope you kick Chealskea\'s asses mate.
Mark I don\'t think we will see that in our life time mate. More is the pity.
Jim.
Mark I don\'t think we will see that in our life time mate. More is the pity.
Jim.
willywetegg
Administrator
Celtic eh, got to say I did not expect Martin Oneil to take him on.
Jim.
Jim.
