boundaries N v S
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rockhopper
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whats the times for the north v south comp? and where do we meet up/weigh in?
sless
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Meet at the Marsdon Rattler at South Shields from 18:30 to 19:00
Lines in 19:30
Lines out 23:00
Please give your names to your team captain on arrival.
A maximum of two hooks to be fished at a time.
Back for the weigh in at The Marsdon Rattler car park by 23:15
Boundaries: The Groin at South Shields to Roker Pier including Roker pier if it is open.
Please note if Roker pier is closed due to bad weather then it is out of bounds.
The river is also out of bounds.
If there is a problem with the weather on the night we can have a look at things nearer the time.
If I have missed anything just let me know as I usually do lol.
Jim.
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Lines in 19:30
Lines out 23:00
Please give your names to your team captain on arrival.
A maximum of two hooks to be fished at a time.
Back for the weigh in at The Marsdon Rattler car park by 23:15
Boundaries: The Groin at South Shields to Roker Pier including Roker pier if it is open.
Please note if Roker pier is closed due to bad weather then it is out of bounds.
The river is also out of bounds.
If there is a problem with the weather on the night we can have a look at things nearer the time.
If I have missed anything just let me know as I usually do lol.
Jim.
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YoursTruly
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Will S/S pier also be out of bounds, cos the gates will be closed?
willywetegg
Administrator
It is now Terry, thank's for that.
Jim.
Jim.
willywetegg
Administrator
Must just add this rather than edit my last post or it would not show.
I would be put in an impossible position to keep South Shields pier in as a fishing location so it is now out of bounds.
Jim.
I would be put in an impossible position to keep South Shields pier in as a fishing location so it is now out of bounds.
Jim.
simon-ayre
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sorry to say if the piers are out and the rivers cant be fished ill gracefully withdraw as they are the only places ive fished during daylight .i would not be happy on a new rock mark,cliff beach etc during darkness untill id fished the venue several times.Unfortunately time restrains mean this will be impossible
YoursTruly
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Jim, you are in a no win situation mate, whatever you decide upon it is going to used as an excuse for not fishing.
Boundaries need to be in place, because of public liability issues piers when not open to public must be out of bounds unfortunately.
I dont think any of the south lads would object to allowing the durham beaches to be included and also both the river tyne and river wear.
If it helps increase numbers then good.
Boundaries need to be in place, because of public liability issues piers when not open to public must be out of bounds unfortunately.
I dont think any of the south lads would object to allowing the durham beaches to be included and also both the river tyne and river wear.
If it helps increase numbers then good.
i agree with what you are saying yours if the piers are closed they should be out of bounds.i have never fished roker pier before so i dont know what it is like for being shut,but i have been on shields pier on the calmest of days and the gate has been locked,also if the pier is open on the day of the match(which would be a miracle) it shuts at 7.30 anyway.as for including the rivers in the match if it encourages more people to sign up for the match im all for it
simon-ayre
Well-known member
i am not using this as an excuse, i would love to fish.
it is more a safety issue for myself,
if the peirs are locked of course i dont expect to go on them but would have been happy to fish in the rivers,
Not having a fishing partner has ment that i wont fish in dangerous places especially at night.
By the way i am from the south side of the river but do my fishing around the hartlepool area.So if any of the other southeners want to show me one of there prized safe cliff venues i might be persuaded
it is more a safety issue for myself,
if the peirs are locked of course i dont expect to go on them but would have been happy to fish in the rivers,
Not having a fishing partner has ment that i wont fish in dangerous places especially at night.
By the way i am from the south side of the river but do my fishing around the hartlepool area.So if any of the other southeners want to show me one of there prized safe cliff venues i might be persuaded
YoursTruly
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Simon, i know what i posted may have implied what you are thinking but please believe me it was not meant as a dig at you.
After i posted, the thought did enter my head about you may have taken it as a dig at you but honestly it was not.
What i was trying to get over was the fact that for some on nesa it only takes the slightest hint of a get out and they take it, now i know for sure many are going to tke offence at that, but going on past experiences i have seen many pretty lame excuses for not turning out.
After i posted, the thought did enter my head about you may have taken it as a dig at you but honestly it was not.
What i was trying to get over was the fact that for some on nesa it only takes the slightest hint of a get out and they take it, now i know for sure many are going to tke offence at that, but going on past experiences i have seen many pretty lame excuses for not turning out.
willywetegg
Administrator
Terry, after your post there is absolutely no way that South Shields pier could be used as part of the venue for the comp.
I still can not believe you posted what you did.
If you would like to inform us all what your post was about I am sure that we would really apreciate it.
I have had to try and answer so many PMs today and I am sick of it.
As a top class angler that seems to be admired from certain parts, I am sure you will tell us all that it had nothing to do with the anglers coming down from the north that had no idea where to fish???????????????????
Once again Terry, thank you very much.
Jim.
I still can not believe you posted what you did.
If you would like to inform us all what your post was about I am sure that we would really apreciate it.
I have had to try and answer so many PMs today and I am sick of it.
As a top class angler that seems to be admired from certain parts, I am sure you will tell us all that it had nothing to do with the anglers coming down from the north that had no idea where to fish???????????????????
Once again Terry, thank you very much.
Jim.
YoursTruly
Well-known member
Jim, i was trying to point out that if Roker pier was closed and considered out of bounds then surely South Shields pier also being closed must be out of bounds purely for reasons of public liability.
If the organisers are seen to allow competitors to go round closed gates and something happened (accident or other) then the Organisers would be deemed responsible.
The bit about the Durham beaches and also the rivers wear and tyne was mentioned purely because some had wanted them in bounds and as i read the posting it would have influenced wether or not they fished.
It was not because i thought some of the north did not know where to fish, even though by their own admission some dont.
I know there is a bit of banter going on and i am sure if anyone of the north team were stuck for somewhere to fish then the south side would help them out.
If the organisers are seen to allow competitors to go round closed gates and something happened (accident or other) then the Organisers would be deemed responsible.
The bit about the Durham beaches and also the rivers wear and tyne was mentioned purely because some had wanted them in bounds and as i read the posting it would have influenced wether or not they fished.
It was not because i thought some of the north did not know where to fish, even though by their own admission some dont.
I know there is a bit of banter going on and i am sure if anyone of the north team were stuck for somewhere to fish then the south side would help them out.
"If the organisers are seen to allow competitors to go round closed gates and something happened (accident or other) then the Organisers would be deemed responsible."
Hmmmmm.......does that not also apply to the Shields Open, Terry?
What about the "it is dangerous to cross the barrier" notices placed all along the clifftops???........I've seen you (and countless others) fishing from the cliffs beyond the barriers in the past.
Hmmmmm.......does that not also apply to the Shields Open, Terry?
What about the "it is dangerous to cross the barrier" notices placed all along the clifftops???........I've seen you (and countless others) fishing from the cliffs beyond the barriers in the past.
willywetegg
Administrator
So that will mean that all of the cliff tops will have to be out of bounds too due to the signs that are posted along that area too then?????????
South Shields pier as you know is not under the same ownership or conditions as Roker pier, and I would still like to know why you posted what you did as that explaination does not even try to cut it and you know it.
Jim.
South Shields pier as you know is not under the same ownership or conditions as Roker pier, and I would still like to know why you posted what you did as that explaination does not even try to cut it and you know it.
Jim.
YoursTruly
Well-known member
Jim, the explanation i have given is my answer and if you think i had any other reason for mentioning it then i do not know what you want me to say.
There is a notice at the start of the pier and if i am not mistaken at the first gate ( which TC you must be aware of) telling you it is prohibited to go round the gates.
As for the cliff tops ( TC once again you have seen them) it quite clearly informs you it is Dangerous to cross the barrier.
Now the difference between the two is quite clear, The pier notice is actually telling you and cliff notices are advising you.
In a court of law there is a very big difference.
There is a notice at the start of the pier and if i am not mistaken at the first gate ( which TC you must be aware of) telling you it is prohibited to go round the gates.
As for the cliff tops ( TC once again you have seen them) it quite clearly informs you it is Dangerous to cross the barrier.
Now the difference between the two is quite clear, The pier notice is actually telling you and cliff notices are advising you.
In a court of law there is a very big difference.
willywetegg
Administrator
There is a notice at the start of the pier and if i am not mistaken at the first gate ( which TC you must be aware of) telling you it is prohibited to go round the gates.
Are you 100% sure about that Terry.
Jim.
Are you 100% sure about that Terry.
Jim.
