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The Great Wallsendo

The Great Wallsendo

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Henry Gilbey has a right old rant in this months Sea Angler about shore anglers trying to emulate tournament casting techniques on the beach...

He basically says that most anglers try too hard to copy these casting styles and invariably put themselves and those around them at risk.

To that end, do these casting styles have their place on the beach?

We all know that it isn't always necessary to blast the lead beyond the horizon...but in which circumstances would it be applicable?
 
The Great Wallsendo said:
Henry Gilbey has a right old rant in this months Sea Angler about shore anglers trying to emulate tournament casting techniques on the beach...

He basically says that most anglers try too hard to copy these casting styles and invariably put themselves and those around them at risk.

To that end, do these casting styles have their place on the beach?

We all know that it isn't always necessary to blast the lead beyond the horizon...but in which circumstances would it be applicable?
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From what I have seen of gilbey on the telly he talks cack anyway.


I do agree though tournament style casting can be dangerous on for example a busy pier
 
It may not be neccessary of piers and rocks, but on shallow beaches, sometimes it is. Because if you can only overhead cast 100 yards, sometimes the fish are deeper than that and further out. Also on beachs they tend not to be as crowded as piers etc so it is a bit safer on beaches.
 
I like to watch Henry he is good crack yet a bit dim.Personal feelings are you should always use your judgment,if fishing on a crowded area then stick to straight over head casting,potentially you can always get a crack off on even high strenth shocker.Let common sense prevail.
regards
 
NUFC09 said:
It may not be neccessary of piers and rocks, but on shallow beaches, sometimes it is. Because if you can only overhead cast 100 yards, sometimes the fish are deeper than that and further out. Also on beachs they tend not to be as crowded as piers etc so it is a bit safer on beaches.
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I agree - every year there are reports of great bags caught by lads who can and do cast 150 yards plus when others are getting bog all. If it takes a pendulum cast to do it then it should be done. Anyone within 30 yards or so I reckon you should think again though.

I however find the pendulum cast very dangerous and refuse to use it as

a. I can't do it
b. I tried once when I was on my own and nearly garroted myself (the ballyclava saved me nan cheers)
 
isn't it funny it allways seems to be the ones who cant be bothered to get off their arses and learn the cast who deem it dangerous,or when they see you pulling in bags of fish. true its not allways feesable to be blasting it out to the horizon sometimes the fish are at your feet but when there not being able to put a bait 150 plus surely must be another string to your bow.
ive seen more crackoffs from the simple overhead casts than i ever have from pendulum casting.
i dont know what henry's beef is about he used to tournament caster himself, its easy to say you dont need to pendulum cast when people are taking you to shots where the fish are at your feet local knowledge is a powerful thing, i'd like to see henry fish some of our beaches where the waters only inches deep for the first hundred yards see how many fish he catches then with an overhead thump,horses for courses.
 
Lets face it any style of casting is dangerous,whether its a Pendulum or just a over head lob,I doubt very much if the fish rate your casting techniques,granted some venues need to be fished at distance.
 
I agree with Alan, they're all potentially dangerous and I get the feeling that a lot of people still don't use adequate shockleaders if any :mad:

Bazz you're right mate, loads of our beaches are gently sloping and the further you can cast can only increase your options.
 
I appreciate what you are saying Bazz but I once witnessed a clown pendulum casting on the end of a crowded Shields pier. Mind he only did it once, a local gentleman told him if he did it again he would follow his rod over the side. As he started his second cast the said gentleman offered some advice and he decided to pack up and leave.

Horses for courses I think, I suspect very much that at your casting comps that things will be organised by experienced people that know what they are doing, rules will be enforced.

We all try to protect what we know and love but there will always be one pratt that will screw things up,do things the wrong way and become a danger to everyone around him.

It is not easily enforced on a beach when someone does not care about any consequences.

You are also right about more crackoffs coming from the simple overhead thump, most of them would come from people that do not understand about shock leaders, although a few of them would also be from people who could not give a toss about the people around them.

Probably be the same type of people in both examples mate, the ones that don't give a toss. :casstet::casstet::casstet:

Jim.
 
Remember you telling me about that Jim :rolleyes:
I actually nearly got taken out by a 6oz lead on Blyth Beach,i watched him readying himself for a biggun and it whizzed past my head,he was very sorry as well,i was a good 50 plus yards to his right as well.Bit surprised when i seen who it was,cracking fishermen but his casting technique left alot to be desired.
Similar thing happened on Blyth Pier,although this time it had snapped off and it landed at my feet,nobody owned up to it
 
Lmao Ian, no mate just a couple of Captain Cokes lol. Awaiting surgery and in a bit of pain, not sleeping well. Two nights ago, no sleep, last night, eight hours. Not expecting too much in the way of shut eye tonight so a few Captains won't go amiss lol.

Jim.
 
willywetegg said:
Lmao Ian, no mate just a couple of Captain Cokes lol. Awaiting surgery and in a bit of pain, not sleeping well. Two nights ago, no sleep, last night, eight hours. Not expecting too much in the way of shut eye tonight so a few Captains won't go amiss lol.

Jim.
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Drink always helps Jim
You need exercise, go for a jog on your hands, no excuse your just malingering.

;)
 
It would have to be a jog on my elbows as my hands are not working either Ian. Still, sound advice as always mate and will take it all on board lol. ;)

Jim.
 
Elbows are half way up things so don't count - go for a bounce on the forehead, thats the end of a limb (the Neck) I used to do it all of the time when it was muddy on the ground to keep my shoes clean. Honest Jim it will make you feel much better or get some tonguebells, little weights for the tongue. Eylid presses. NO EXCUSE :D

Hope this helps
 
Ian, don't know where to get toungebells so limped through to the kitchen and opened a tin of cocktail sausages and stuck one on each end of a cocktail stick. Pretty good but hunger got the better of me and the tin is almost empty. More suggestions needed.

Please make sure the next suggestion is better as my spell checker just exploded when I wrote toungebells. :eek: :D

Jim.
 
willywetegg said:
Ian, don't know where to get toungebells so limped through to the kitchen and opened a tin of cocktail sausages and stuck one on each end of a cocktail stick. Pretty good but hunger got the better of me and the tin is almost empty. More suggestions needed.

Please make sure the next suggestion is better as my spell checker just exploded when I wrote toungebells. :eek: :D

Jim.
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Do not eat the exercise equipment! It is a sure sign that diet isn't working.
 
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