Could have been killed at Low Newton

[robbo1530]

Right lets get one thing straight , yous sit there slagging the lad off who happens to be my mate who did not intentionally aim his lead at the kayak !! If he wanted to he could have hit him , and you say you were 100 yards out ? Thats a Load of bollocks you were more like 80 yards !! Yous are all quick enough to take this numptys side when none of yous were even there and even know the truth of what went on !! Anybody who knows us knows fine well we dont go out our way and target people with leads , at the end of the day you were going on like you owned the place when the fact is we have as much right as you do !! And if you had a problem and thought we were targeting you on purpose why didnt you come over and see us are call the police ? You did neither you just hurled abuse at us because we turned up to fish a match at a mark you were at and you didnt like it !! Then you come on a public forum trying to name and shame people !! Pretty sad imho

Are you saying the lad in the Yak was already there. If so why should he move?

 

[OuTkast76]

Did not intentionally cast towards him yet could of hit him if he wanted makes no sense at all, In other words he unintentionally cast at him so mistimed his cast so how could he hit him if he had wanted to when he cant cast where he aims?

 

[clarky]

I've read through all the comments/posts and thought there's always 2 sides to every story, "who was there first being the main point" as nearly all of us weren't present we didn't know who was fishing the mark first

until Keith123 posted this.

As the post goes-

[QUOTE
"because we turned up to fish a match at a mark you were at and you didnt like it" QUOTE]

So whether he was at 100, 80 or 30 yrds out he was there first,
whether or not he could have hit him if he wanted to or not he still cast the lead in the direction of the kayak and casting a lead in that direction towards someone is irresponsible,

I had a good idea who it was straight away
and he should know better,
if he'd hit him and caused serious injury then where would he be!!!

 

[KEITH123]

The lads on the pics are not members on this forum , so there for they can not come on and defend them selfs so i have come on and put the other side of the story on for them

 

[robbo1530]

I've read through all the comments/posts and thought there's always 2 sides to every story, "who was there first being the main point" as nearly all of us weren't present we didn't know who was fishing the mark first

until Keith123 posted this.

As the post goes-

[QUOTE
"because we turned up to fish a match at a mark you were at and you didnt like it" QUOTE]

So whether he was at 100, 80 or 30 yrds out he was there first,
whether or not he could have hit him if he wanted to or not he still cast the lead in the direction of the kayak and casting a lead in that direction towards someone is irresponsible,
I had a good idea who it was straight away
and he should know better,
if he'd hit him and caused serious injury then where would he be!!!

I've fished the Hall before, on the beach when some tossers arrived, decided they wanted to be where i was (there were 4 of them) and set up on the prom and cast over the the top of me. Very dangerous but when I asked them to jack it in I was told where to go. This was a few years ago when I was much younger and dafter so I cut their lines and got into a fight for my troubles.

This sounds like the same sort of thing to me.

 

[codbiter]

Shore fishing conflicts

Shore fishing conflicts

Seems there is a conflict beginning to surface, between Kayak and shore fishing etc. Just read a post on WSF website, about another conflict, under general discussions entitled, 'Ignorant Beach Users'. Its relevant to this disscussion as he 'felt like 'firing a lead out at him' ( the Kayaker ) seems its only going to get worse in good weather, roll on the Winter Northerlies.....lol

 

[stephie1]

Bass fantastic , no one chucked a lead at him on purpose as I have just stated before , what it all comes down to is he wanted the place to himself thats the top and bottom of it , I was with the lad and it was nothing like hes making it out to be

So how close did his lead land to the lad in the kayak.and if it is closer than 30 yards do u not think that is irresponsible. I for one know that a strike with a lead can cause a possible fatality.....yes there's two sides to every story and I'm just an onlooker

 

[stephie1]

bang on mate.

I've fished the hall before, on the beach when some tossers arrived, decided they wanted to be where i was (there were 4 of them) and set up on the prom and cast over the the top of me. Very dangerous but when i asked them to jack it in i was told where to go. This was a few years ago when i was much younger and dafter so i cut their lines and got into a fight for my troubles.

This sounds like the same sort of thing to me.

who won robbo

 

[thommaz]

Who said its was a 5oz lead? Assuming straight away and making facts up ? This lad uses carp rods on rock so how the hell could you chuck 5 oz lead at over 100 yards with a carp rod,alot of people dont know and over estimate what 100 yrds is so straight away could imagine COD bein only 50yrds which if he knew they was fisherman about should off f****d off further out of the where, this thread is b******t every 1 has jumped on the band wagon and took 1 side always 2 ends of story personaly a could imagine a person in a kayak taking the p**s thinkin he owns the place and for people to say that they would of casted bk at him makes them as bad or worse, yous have never give the lad was was fisging on the rocks a chance to put his view across also think its funny how you mouth off on here instead of growing a pair of balls and park your kayak up and confront the man only if u r actually tellin the truth

 

[ed209]

Who said its was a 5oz lead? Assuming straight away and making facts up ? This lad uses carp rods on rock so how the hell could you chuck 5 oz lead at over 100 yards with a carp rod,alot of people dont know and over estimate what 100 yrds is so straight away could imagine COD bein only 50yrds which if he knew they was fisherman about should off f****d off further out of the where, this thread is b******t every 1 has jumped on the band wagon and took 1 side always 2 ends of story personaly a could imagine a person in a kayak taking the p**s thinkin he owns the place and for people to say that they would of casted bk at him makes them as bad or worse, yous have never give the lad was was fisging on the rocks a chance to put his view across also think its funny how you mouth off on here instead of growing a pair of balls and park your kayak up and confront the man only if u r actually tellin the truth

1oz, 5oz, 100oz, matters not. All could cause serious injury. Casting towards somebody at any time is stupid and dangerous behaviour. The fact the person you are casting at may or may not have annoyed you will never make such behaviour acceptable.

 

[robbo1530]

who won robbo

I should say the PC ting and say no-one wins as violence isn't the answer.....

But that would be crap so I'll say it was a dishonourable draw. Got a black eye for my troubles but then so did a couple of them. Imagine though a few big girls in waders battling with handbags on slippy pebbles instead of the noble art of boxing though :red

 

[thommaz]

1oz, 5oz, 100oz, matters not. All could cause serious injury. Casting towards somebody at any time is stupid and dangerous behaviour. The fact the person you are casting at may or may not have annoyed you will never make such behaviour acceptable.

The point about the weight bein was that yous all assumed and started to make the stories up also you said above casting towards some1 straight away assuming were u they or are you making another story in ya head end day 2 ends of a story so stop making assumptions

 

[ed209]

The point about the weight bein was that yous all assumed and started to make the stories up also you said above casting towards some1 straight away assuming were u they or are you making another story in ya head end day 2 ends of a story so stop making assumptions

Since when have I made up a story or made an assumption?

I know none of the people involved and I have no idea who was there first or who kicked the situation off.

All i have repeatedly said is that what ever the circumstances casting a lead towards another person is stupid, dangerous and totally out of order whatever the circumstances leading up to it.

 

[john/r]

is casting not dangerous anywere more and more swinging the lead even on piers.

i know kieth and he says in no way at all was his pal casting at the kayak and i believe kieth i have known him a little while and is as straight as a dye.

 

[thommaz]

Since when have I made up a story or made an assumption?

I know none of the people involved and I have no idea who was there first or who kicked the situation off.

All i have repeatedly said is that what ever the circumstances casting a lead towards another person is stupid, dangerous and totally out of order whatever the circumstances leading up to it.

that's the same as fishing end of south shields pier and the round end is full even with a over head thump is dangerous to any member on that round end

 

[kayos]

Who said its was a 5oz lead? Assuming straight away and making facts up ? This lad uses carp rods on rock so how the hell could you chuck 5 oz lead at over 100 yards with a carp rod,alot of people dont know and over estimate what 100 yrds is so straight away could imagine COD bein only 50yrds which if he knew they was fisherman about should off f****d off further out of the where, this thread is b******t every 1 has jumped on the band wagon and took 1 side always 2 ends of story personaly a could imagine a person in a kayak taking the p**s thinkin he owns the place and for people to say that they would of casted bk at him makes them as bad or worse, yous have never give the lad was was fisging on the rocks a chance to put his view across also think its funny how you mouth off on here instead of growing a pair of balls and park your kayak up and confront the man only if u r actually tellin the truth

You don't get the concept of irony then?

 

[endurothumpers]

Since when have I made up a story or made an assumption?

I know none of the people involved and I have no idea who was there first or who kicked the situation off.

All i have repeatedly said is that what ever the circumstances casting a lead towards another person is stupid, dangerous and totally out of order whatever the circumstances leading up to it.

There are some fishing venues when this is in unavoidable 7 stars at North Blyth your casting straight toward the guys fishing on the opposite side

 

[thommaz]

You don't get the concept of irony then?

well reality is 1 sided on here once again.......

 

[ed209]

that's the same as fishing end of south shields pier and the round end is full even with a over head thump is dangerous to any member on that round end

Well i have fished the round end a good few times, when its busy you need to make sure nobody is in your casting arc and to refrain from swinging the lead about however I cannot imagine a situation where you would be casting towards somebody as you cast away from the pier.


I suppose you might be casting in the general direction of Tyenmouth pier and people fishing on there but its well,well out of range of anybody.

 

[thommaz]

Well i have fished the round end a good few times, when its busy you need to make sure nobody is in your casting arc and to refrain from swinging the lead about however I cannot imagine a situation where you would be casting towards somebody as you cast away from the pier.


I suppose you might be casting in the general direction of Tyenmouth pier and people fishing on there but its well,well out of range of anybody.

fished the round end for years myself doesn't matter how you look at it its still dangerous had a lad once years ago snap off at wheel and ended up at round end ........... also thy is many marks where people are opposite of you but at casting range ...... end day assumptions assumptions assumptions