Does size really matter ?

jonny_s

jonny_s

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Hi all

I have been looking for a beachcaster for the last couple of weeks that will potentially allow me to cast well in excess of 100 yards. I prefer to fish over ground with very few snags using a fixed spool reel.

I am interested in the real difference you would get in casting distance between the more usual 12 and 13' rods compared to some of the 15 and 16' ones I have seen on Ebay.

Due to work and family I don't fish very often and would prefer to spend well under £100 on a rod or ideally a pair. I have seen loads on Ebay for around 20-40 brand new and I know you usually get what you pay for but I am hoping there may be a few budget bargains out there.

Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with rods such as these
1 NEW 15'0" BEACHCASTER ROD LINEAFFE "IBERIAN" 100/200G on eBay (end time 04-Oct-09 13:56:36 BST)

Or any recommendations would be appreciated

Thank you

Jonny:)
 
size

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i was at a casting comp years ago peter thain gave a demo using a reel taped to walking stick and he cast 125 yards it shows it is more how you cast than the leanth of the rod
 
casting rod

casting rod

have heard a few times of peter thaine doing that with walking stick, i'd like to able to that with a 14' rod never mind a walking stick.
was talking to danny moscot once ( apologise if spelt his name wrong ) and he said its a combination of several things, and any one will do a decent cast but put all together the sky the limit
 
been told the fox rods are good . if you use a long rod and fixed spool ,use 20 to 30 lb braid on the reel and use 80 to 100 lb braid as a shocker. you will need a finger poke i use a 1 inch length of racing bike inner tube fits my finger great. using braid as a shocker means you get a smaller knot and it does not rattle in the rings which you do get using a mono shocker . you should get a good distance.
 
Havent heard of Fox rods but will search now. Was thinking of using maybe 50-80lb braid througout. I have never been any good with knots and casting with mine going through rings breaks me out in a sweat.

thanks for the reply

Jonny
 
I've only been sea fishing for 2 years now so my opinion wont hold as much merit as the more experienced fishermen\women on here,

But, I started with a free 12 foot 20 year old conoflex (it was as thick as a drain pipe and as heavy)
then a £10 14 foot rod off ebay,
then a £12 platic shakespeare thing
then a 13 foot Penn Noreaster ebay job for £12 (which to be honest was great, but ultra stiff, wish I still had it for gale force jobs)

then after a year I spent a bit more, and bought a £120 second hand Century Kompressor

The casting difference between the first 4 was minimal,
but the casting difference between the first 4 and the century was epic

The morale of my post I suppose is, you pay for what you get,

and in my personal experience the price you pay and the quality you get goes hand in hand, pretty much like everything else.

I can't cast for ****, but the century REALLY did add distance to my cast..

Maybe you could get 100 yards + out of a Plastic fantastic, then this whole post is pretty much obsolete :)

But in my case for the century (cant comment on other leading manufacturers) compared to the cheap stuff the performance was MASSIVE,
really,
not just in the build/action,
but the confidence and pleasure you get from knowing your fishing with a pedigree, respected and quality piece of design and engineering,
and trust me I'm not a superficial type of bloke.

Sorry for prattling on mate, but it's nice to reply to a post that I can hopefully give good advice,
cos I posted the exact same type of posts on here when I first started and wanted advice (not speculating that your new to the sport, just to the forum)
 
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noreaster i had given but the tip section was repaired from some one , still got butt section too but its very low diameter ,not sure on the rock marks though its like fishing with a flatty fanatic rod
 
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Sigsy said:
I've only been sea fishing for 2 years now so my opinion wont hold as much merit as the more experienced fishermen\women on here,

But, I started with a free 12 foot 20 year old conoflex (it was as thick as a drain pipe and as heavy)
then a £10 14 foot rod off ebay,
then a £12 platic shakespeare thing
then a 13 foot Penn Noreaster ebay job for £12 (which to be honest was great, but ultra stiff, wish I still had it for gale force jobs)

then after a year I spent a bit more, and bought a £120 second hand Century Kompressor

The casting difference between the first 4 was minimal,
but the casting difference between the first 4 and the century was epic

The morale of my post I suppose is, you pay for what you get,

and in my personal experience the price you pay and the quality you get goes hand in hand, pretty much like everything else.

I can't cast for ****, but the century REALLY did add distance to my cast..

Maybe you could get 100 yards + out of a Plastic fantastic, then this whole post is pretty much obsolete :)

But in my case for the century (cant comment on other leading manufacturers) compared to the cheap stuff the performance was MASSIVE,
really,
not just in the build/action,
but the confidence and pleasure you get from knowing your fishing with a pedigree, respected and quality piece of design and engineering,
and trust me I'm not a superficial type of bloke.

Sorry for prattling on mate, but it's nice to reply to a post that I can hopefully give good advice,
cos I posted the exact same type of posts on here when I first started and wanted advice (not speculating that your new to the sport, just to the forum)
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Thanks Sigsy

This is the sort of advice I am looking for. Might just wait another couple of months and buy decent second hand.

I appreciate you sharing your experience

Jonny
 
In my opinion that is the smart thing to do mate,

Keep an eye on the 'Trading Post' section of the forum

There is very often great gear on offer for bargain prices.
 
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leanth

in my view it makes a difference how you cast if you use a long rod the extra weight and leanth makes a slower cast. a shorter rod you can make a faster cast in the end it will end up the same distance but a longer rod is better for rocks and beaches a shorter rod is better for piers
 
jonny_s said:
Thanks Sigsy

This is the sort of advice I am looking for. Might just wait another couple of months and buy decent second hand.

I appreciate you sharing your experience

Jonny
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Very similar story to Sigsys...my first decent rod was a second hand conoflex from Billys and I still use it (got it re-whipped and varnished as well so it's all sparkly and shiny)

My rod before that was an old Daiwa Carbon Moonraker which in comparison was a floppy as a shoe lace - like Sigsy says you get what you pay for from the better brands
 
 
Thanks for all the effort COD BOY some nice looking rods there. I will take my time and hopefully select one with a bit pedigree.

cheers
Jonny
 
jonny_s said:
Havent heard of Fox rods but will search now. Was thinking of using maybe 50-80lb braid througout. I have never been any good with knots and casting with mine going through rings breaks me out in a sweat.

thanks for the reply

Jonny
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Don't. Learn to tie knots, they're a fundamental part of fishing, and nothing to be scared of.

There are loads of sites which show you how to tie knots. Do it while you're sitting watching the telly, soon enough you'll be able to tie them without looking.
 
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Davyred said:
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Don't. Learn to tie knots, they're a fundamental part of fishing, and nothing to be scared of.

There are loads of sites which show you how to tie knots. Do it while you're sitting watching the telly, soon enough you'll be able to tie them without looking.
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Too right, just practice, it becomes second nature. Good advice Davy
 
I use my twins (daiwa kevlar whisker 12ft) & (daiwa kevlar whisker 13ft) very old, bought them off my m8s dad very strong indeed!! 13fter for all piers beaches etc 12fter for rocks
 

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