f***ing half-term

[Tompa]

tell ya what ya can tell the summer anglers to winter anglers on here same old sh!t ,some dont even know what it is about winter fishing have seen lads whinging cos theyve never had a size cod(ling) out all winter but come summer months they have plenty to say about summer fishing on the pier targeting mackerel easiest fish in the sea get a life and get out and about and target more species that are out there if ya travel a bit

Well said coddy mate,,,it's because of this bollocks i very rarely come online anymore!!!!!!
Get out!!!!!!,,,get fishing!!!! AND ENCOURAGE THE YOUNGSTERS!!!!!! If it costs a couple of hooks and weights then so f*cking what!!!!!

IT'S NOT YOUR PEIR!!!!!!!

Bloody hell man,,,,build a bridge and get over it!!!!

I'll give help,tackle and bait to anyone!!!!,,I'm a Fisherman,,,,,,and help new and old fisherman......are you!!!!???

 

[ohpollocks]

yep encourage 9,10 and 11 year olds to the pier and give them stuff. good reason to skip school..... I look to encourage the kids but in the right way.

This forum seems to be full of people living in their own bubble and get upset if people have an opinion outside of their own. Previous posts show that.. or maybe the people are the previous generation who skipped school are unable to read the posts properly and understand somebody elses reasoning or opinions.

I would be more than happy to give up some of time my help a club out and spend time at the pier with the younger bunch, ensuring they are fishing in a safe environment.

 

[paranoid and surnburnt]

yep encourage 9,10 and 11 year olds to the pier and give them stuff. good reason to skip school..... I look to encourage the kids but in the right way.

This forum seems to be full of people living in their own bubble and get upset if people have an opinion outside of their own. Previous posts show that.. or maybe the people are the previous generation who skipped school are unable to read the posts properly and understand somebody elses reasoning or opinions.

I would be more than happy to give up some of time my help a club out and spend time at the pier with the younger bunch, ensuring they are fishing in a safe environment.

Totally right there are clubs that the kids should be encouraged to join so that the support that people choose to offer is structured and ensures the childrens safety, as no child under say 13-14 should be on the pier without adult supervision.
We have to be careful that we are not encouraging these kids to wag school, or these kids will end up being adults that are only capable of fishing and scrounging ( and not just on the pier ).

 

[micky-quayle]

Hi Micky,

Without gaining the wrath of the forum and being called all sorts of names, I have to say I disagree with what your doing even though your motives are brilliant. We should not be encouraging children that are too young into dangerous situations....

I have been lucky having encouraging parents and hopefully I am the same with my seven year old. I also speculate from your heartfelt comments you are the same. However safety is paramount. If my seven year old was down the pier scrounging bits I would be gutted.. and scared..

However I dont know what the answer is..

all I can think of is my experience as a golfer.. Im a keen golfer and play at a good level. Before I was a teenager I used to get dropped off at the course and would stay there most of the day.. Not because my parents were lazy but because the structure was superb. The senior members (whom were all retired) would be there every day to supervise us. there would be golf competitions with basic prizes. We would be taught etiquette on the golf course and to other members. We would help collect balls, learn about the course and in return we would get tees, golf balls and free lessons from the pro etc. when I became a teenager and was old enough to be on my own I knew the game and how to keep myself and other players safe..

I wonder if the clubs could do more. However they seem to be in decline..

the answer is education, its not a question of just giving them a hook or a bit of line its taking the time to explain things to them, point out things they are doing which are dangerous and how they can do things safely and catch more fish. ofcourse you sometimes have your advice ignored but thankfully those instances are few and far between. if you dont help them out they will still be on the pier but be doing unsafe practices. yes maybe in an ideal world they shouldnt be on the pier without parental supervision but in reality they are there so give these kids a helping hand it can only do good.

 

[micky-quayle]

in response to Micky Quayle I recognise that alot of these kids are there because there parents don't know or care where they are, and that is a disgrace in itself, and it is charitable and probably the right thing to do to assist them and give them advice to hopefully keep them out of trouble and keep them safe while on the pier.
Unfortunately when you help one and give them some gear, you then get inundated by other kids thinking that you''ll do the same for them, I am not some miserable sod, but I am also not ashamed to say this and I don't think I am alone in this " I go on the pier to relax enjoy being outdoors, enjoy being in the company of fellow anglers, hopefully catch some fish, return home uninjured with the same amount of eyes as I left with and not have to look after other peoples 'latch key kids' ".

theres nothing i like better than a relaxing session without bother but the reality of the situation at this time of year is that youre not going to get that on a public pier, if you want peace and quiet you need to go to another venue. if you fish the pier make the best of the situation and try to help these kids and help prevent them becoming the next generation of druggies/drunks because believe me without mentoring this is exactly what will happen.

 

[Pete from shields]

my mates not a bad caster he gets it pretty straight out, the problem I've had in the past especially on piers is pick out your spot, you respect the other anglers and leave a bit of space, but then on come more people not always kids and squeeze in between you and the angler you've left space between.
my friends and I if we see a pier is already busy we'll either go fish of the beach or will go find another pier, its just using discretion and respecting other anglers / people, a qualities which some kids and some adults haven't yet been taught or choose to ignore.
I am claiming that all young anglers are a menace or scroungers, i have encountered some that have polite, very friendly and good anglers, unfortunately, as in most areas of life the majority who behave and are a credit to themselves and there peers are easy to miss in comparison to the minority that misbehave and cause trouble.

Nice one mate I guess your first post or MORE SO the title of the thread threw it out of context, but the kids holidays are what they are, it is upto the adults to help them if they have no adult supervision of there own. I do agree about the scrounging ones but they mostly are too young to be there or are with mr chav (dad) drinking gang who spent most the money on the beer.

When I take my son down its the teenagers who really want to help him out and get involved.. And good on them.. Hope my little un turns out like that and remembers the help he was given..

Although when its busy I wont take him cos its the adults who shove him out the way cos they want the spot hes in.. Had loads of disputes with arses shoving him out the way, especially if he catches...

Yep that is what I was talking about mate regarding my son aswell, when the blokes just go to the lads spots and cast shoving the kids out of the way.

We were on pier this morning and all the young anglers were all sticking together, having a bit banter and catching fish and giving info, my son thought they were top lads.

On the other hand some men 30+ started turning up with bags of beer around 11, and even more when we were going off about 13:15, I have nothing against them but they are a great example to the young lads.

 

[spoonface]

In all seriousness if someone (regardless of age) asks to borrow something in a polite and civilised way (and if I have it spare) they are more than welcome.

Last year on Roker Pier a youngster of around 11 or 12 asked to borrow a packet of feathers, I obliged and thought nothing more of it. Two weeks later that same kid came up and said thanks and offered me two sets of feathers.

Exception to the rule possibly, but when something like that happens it tends to make me have a bit more faith in people.

 

[codseeker]

obviously ya sign is spazzed LOL

ya carnt expect every child to know the top knowlledge of macky hunting take a bit of time and patients and help em out and not fling them in the sea

 

[Pete from shields]

In all seriousness if someone (regardless of age) asks to borrow something in a polite and civilised way (and if I have it spare) they are more than welcome.

Last year on Roker Pier a youngster of around 11 or 12 asked to borrow a packet of feathers, I obliged and thought nothing more of it. Two weeks later that same kid came up and said thanks and offered me two sets of feathers.

Exception to the rule possibly, but when something like that happens it tends to make me have a bit more faith in people.

That is what most of us would do in a normal situation and it is awesome he repaid the favour like that, as you say maybe an exception to the rule. However I have first hand experience of fishing down by the ferry landing, the group of blokes next to me and my lad had a couple of kids just running riot.

Even though the adults were fishing the kids kept coming up to us asking if we had any spare bait, lol yeah right kids here's a few crabs they cost me a quid a piece go throw them away lol no chance.

 

[marksworld]

If you don't care for kids find somewhere where they won't be. You won't get me on a pier in a month of Sunday's during the summer. Even in the winter i would rather fish somewhere quiet. Never have liked pier fishing, can't be chewed with to many people much prefer to get out to rock marks where you can normally have some peace and quiet.

 

[<(Andy2009)>]

Christ, us kids arnt that bad are we!

A mean we have to start somewhere. Most of everything ive learned has come from the good, respectable and kind hearted anglers who fish shields pier, and many of them are on this site. Juniors, (including myself) all learn at our own pace, but obviously help will be needed along the way.