Fishing at distance over rough ground

[adam123]

When I fish over rough ground i usually just lob baits out at fairly close distance with simple 1 hook flappers with an upside down rig clip for a rotten bottom but thinking of blasting baits out as far as a can manage.

So what I am wondering is for those of you who fish at distance over heavy ground which rigs and components do you use as i dont want to be blasting a rig out with the lead on an upside down rig clip. But I also dont want to be spending loads on rig components.

Also what line do you usually use as I dont want to fish to light and end up tying shockleader on all the time but I don't want to fish too heavy so it hinders distance loads.

 

[wavy davy]

30lb straight through and a clipped pennel pulley.

 

[arc]

30lb straight through and a clipped pennel pulley.

Hes talking about fishing at distance, thats a recipe for disaster . Any type of power casting with 30lb line and no shockleader is dangerous to anyone in the vicinity .

 

[Rocker]

30lb straight through and a clipped pennel pulley.

Nawt wrong with this setup, I use it and fish safely with a rotton bottom out to 120 yards. A better set up would be 18 - 20 lb line 60lb shocker pulley with 10lb weak link (clipped). As for a reel, I use a shimano speedmaster. Nuff said!

 

[smoothound]

i use a clipped down pulley rig or pulley dropper rig, go for 0.40 line diameter and i use at least 80lb shockleader.
personally i use upside down gemini genie clips, as long as you've got a smooth casting style then they work fine.

 

[codseeker]

lighter the line with shockleader on with go distance ,heavier the line it will be less must be sommit to do with the weight ... on ya spool or gan on quote me please i probs be rang

 

[finseeker]

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[g.ordon]

When I fish over rough ground i usually just lob baits out at fairly close distance with simple 1 hook flappers with an upside down rig clip for a rotten bottom but thinking of blasting baits out as far as a can manage.

So what I am wondering is for those of you who fish at distance over heavy ground which rigs and components do you use as i dont want to be blasting a rig out with the lead on an upside down rig clip. But I also dont want to be spending loads on rig components.

Also what line do you usually use as I dont want to fish to light and end up tying shockleader on all the time but I don't want to fish too heavy so it hinders distance loads.

If you want good distance mate you've got to use a light line plus a shock leader

 

[lobsterman]

20lb sensor with a good 60-80lb shokker. ya wont get much distance with 30lb straight through and will probs end up cracking of if ya power casting. i use a clipped down rig for distance over the hard, i just put a genie clip on the right way then another one threaded onto this one but upside down to clip sinker onto. i lash it and the sinker has never dropped off the clip while casting.


another good way is use a pulley rig and your clip upside down the way you are now. but get some sinkers with baitclips on and jus clip ya hook down to that instead of having more rig components too snag.


me personally wen fishing real heavy kelpy ground wont fish with less than 35lb straight through, with a weak link of 15lb. 1 single big cod hook with a big crab bait on and lob it 40 - 50 yards.

 

[codseeker]

me personally wen fishing real heavy kelpy ground wont fish with less than 35lb straight through, with a weak link of 15lb. 1 single big cod hook with a big crab bait on and lob it 40 - 50 yards.

is it working m8 if not and all goes wrong ya cud allways sink ya lead into a seals head if one pops up PMSL

 

[lobsterman]

ai it worked ok yesturday in the get carter trev. no seals about thankfully haha

 

[adam123]

Think I'm going to use 30lb F1 as i've heard its a strong enough line ( even though its hopeless in low breaking strains) and its a low diamater and couple it with an 80 leader.
Then just use a simple clip down with an imp with a genie breaker attached to the imp.
Only downside is the cost to make the rig and the high chance of me not getting the rig back.

 

[shaun]

Think I'm going to use 30lb F1 as i've heard its a strong enough line ( even though its hopeless in low breaking strains) and its a low diamater and couple it with an 80 leader.
Then just use a simple clip down with an imp with a genie breaker attached to the imp.
Only downside is the cost to make the rig and the high chance of me not getting the rig back.

No reason you shouldnt get it back most the time if using a hook which will bend out and a weak link for the wieght

 

[lobsterman]

Think I'm going to use 30lb F1 as i've heard its a strong enough line ( even though its hopeless in low breaking strains) and its a low diamater and couple it with an 80 leader.
Then just use a simple clip down with an imp with a genie breaker attached to the imp.
Only downside is the cost to make the rig and the high chance of me not getting the rig back.

are you going to be using a weak link still?

imo F1 is crap over rock. it frays like the collar on ya grandas owld jumpa. and ya aint gunna get much distance with 30lb with an 80 shocker. if the conditions are right ya dont need to be chucking megga distances anyow. stick with 35lb straight through. good bait and plop it in a nice gulley.

 

[adam123]

are you going to be using a weak link still?

imo F1 is crap over rock. it frays like the collar on ya grandas owld jumpa. and ya aint gunna get much distance with 30lb with an 80 shocker. if the conditions are right ya dont need to be chucking megga distances anyow. stick with 35lb straight through. good bait and plop it in a nice gulley.

F1 is fairly low diameter in 30lb thats why i want to use it (.45 mm) but the downside to that will obviously be its abrasion resistance and yes will be using a 18lb weak link.

If it all goes wrong with loosing loads of leader trying to use lighter lines then i'll jsut go back to lobbing baits with me 80lb braid

 

[<(Andy2009)>]

I've generally been getting my fish recently at distance on an Up 'n' Over pennel rig armed with either 3/0 or 4/0 hooks with a big crab or razorfish bait cocktailed with one or two yellowtail worm.

I agree with what the others say adam, for any sort of power casting your best off using a shockleader, currently im using 25lb Sakuma Dark crystal with 70lb shockleader for the type of fishing your wanting to do.

The problem with using 30lb straight through though is that you'll get less line on the spool, but the shockleader helps as you can put more into your cast and it also helps as a rubbing leader when hauling ya cod through the rough stuff . 30lb line with a Shockleader (I also do this for the heavy stuff), and you should be spot on buddy.

 

[big_sean]

This is so easy

Try using suffix tritanium 20lb but tie the leader on using a bimini twist

then use a 10lb rotten bottom for the lead and a hook length of 20lb amnesia

the hook or lead will 99% break first

i use this for all my rough ground fishing even in heavy kelp

since i started this my catch rates went up as i can get a very good distance if required but also a short lob if needed


Sean

 

[codseeker]

a carnt cast to save me life ,prob reason is i use 30lb line and fish piers or rock marks ,sometimes beaches but can adjust to lighter line which ive seen distance improve when fishing down the holderness coast etc ,but sometimes ya dont need distance the fish are close in ,if ya baits in the right place at the right time ya probs into a good chance of hooking into fish ,if not move around and adjust ya distance close in where ya fishing ya shud pick sommit up ,if all else fails and theres fk all about head home simple as

 

[topbanana]

i've just started using 30lb sufix tritanium on a 535 mag with a leader and can put a clipped down rig a good distance. but in all honesty theres not many places round here in heavy ground where you need to be lashing the tits off it.

 

[clarky]

30lb straight through and a clipped pennel pulley.

He's on about blasting weights out as far as he can!
With that set up he'll either seriously injure or kill someone one day