For our Polish friends out there

[Paul_h]

I have no problem with foreigners coming to the UK, however that is on the understanding that they have work and pay the taxes etc, can speak, read and understand English.

i have many Polish friends who worked on a Power plant project in the UK, all could speak and read, excellent tradesmen and very good workers. working away from home as many of us do and have to.

what does me in, is that for years, the government has watched illegal people coming through the channel tunnel, coming in by airports and ferries and the likes, cannot speak, read or understand our lingo and are allowed to stay !!!!!

fcuk it I'm going down the boat...........

 

[kayos]

I have no problem with foreigners coming to the UK, however that is on the understanding that they have work and pay the taxes etc, can speak, read and understand English.

i have many Polish friends who worked on a Power plant project in the UK, all could speak and read, excellent tradesmen and very good workers. working away from home as many of us do and have to.

what does me in, is that for years, the government has watched illegal people coming through the channel tunnel, coming in by airports and ferries and the likes, cannot speak, read or understand our lingo and are allowed to stay !!!!!

fcuk it I'm going down the boat...........

Illegal immigrants are another story altogether Paul and I agree with you. One point though, you seem to work abroad a lot, I think I saw some posts regarding you in Turkey. Can you speak, read and understand Turkish? Us Brits are the worst country in Europe for learning a second language, bottom of the league in fact, yet we still work in Europe, the middle East etc with no idea of the language. Why should we expect foreigners that come here read, write and understand English when we do not expect ourselves to learn the language of where we work abroad?

 

[Paul_h]

Illegal immigrants are another story altogether Paul and I agree with you. One point though, you seem to work abroad a lot, I think I saw some posts regarding you in Turkey. Can you speak, read and understand Turkish?

evet..........and azeri, russian, dutch and arabic.....and a little Thai.............but i am not residing in these countries, just visiting, off to korea so that will be interesting

 

[kayos]

evet..........and azeri, russian, dutch and arabic.....and a little Thai.............but i am not residing in these countries, just visiting, off to korea so that will be interesting

I just knew you would be a polyglot Paul, I'm impressed! Most of the foreigners who come here do not intend to live here full time. They come here for a better standard of living, but will go home eventually. I have a friend who has worked in the UAE for 15 years, coming home 4 times a year. Has no clue of the language even after all that time. I think that is replicated by us Brits all over the world, so I think it is a bit ironic for us to demand foreigners coming here should be fluent.

 

[Paul_h]

I just knew you would be a polyglot Paul, I'm impressed! Most of the foreigners who come here do not intend to live here full time. They come here for a better standard of living, but will go home eventually. I have a friend who has worked in the UAE for 15 years, coming home 4 times a year. Has no clue of the language even after all that time. I think that is replicated by us Brits all over, so I think it is a bit ironic for us to demand foreigners coming here should be fluent.

sorry, but anyone staying in the UK needs to have the lot. there are more and more cuts to authorities, our standard of living and cost of living has nose dived and will not get better. illegal immigrants are a part of the equation of why

UAE (Dubai) is english speaking, any arabic or asian spoken is mainly by foreigners and native to native. i have a place in Dubai and have never had to speak in any other language than english....oh i miss that sun

Paul

 

[kayos]

sorry, but anyone staying in the UK needs to have the lot. there are more and more cuts to authorities, our standard of living and cost of living has nose dived and will not get better. illegal immigrants are a part of the equation of why

UAE (Dubai) is english speaking, any arabic or asian spoken is mainly by foreigners and native to native. i have a place in Dubai and have never had to speak in any other language than english....oh i miss that sun

Paul

Well let's agree to differ Paul. In my opinion if we work abroad and don't speak the language we shouldn't expect people coming here to be any different. I know the UAE and many other middle eastern countries have a English due to the Brits ruling those countries for decades, but their national language is still Arabic. As you say Arabic is spoken by native to native, well it is their country after all, just because we can happily get by in other countries without speaking the language,doesn't mean we should be held to a different standard to what we expect from those who come here. I'm sure foreigners who come here feel they can get by with little English.

Britain has many problems and they no doubt will get worse with the opening up of the European Union, more foreigners will come here. That is way it is and I don't necessarily agree with it.

 

[Davey1970]

kayos m8, go to your local job center, tel them your british , left school and worked all your life, paid your tax and stamp.
tell them you have carpal tunnel syndrome, vibration white finger, massive nerve damage and bowel cancer.
see how long it take's you 2 get sorted, when all the foreigner's around you are getting hand out's left right and centre.

 

[spongebob]

I worked for a company a few year ago and the boss employed loads of polish. They were the most arrogant obnosxious people to work alongside. They would mess up the workshop leave pop bottles of pi"" everywhere. They would play the old trick I speak no English, hell they wouldn't even listen to their own translator. Imagine 63 of them and only 12-15 English how do you compete with that?. Half of them were farmers and the polish mafia so I was told lol not 1 qualified joiner plumber boarder .

 

[easyfish1]

Pop Bottles of p..s ?

Why ?...

 

[spongebob]

Pop Bottles of p..s ?

Why ?...

Because they were to lazy to go to the plumbed in toilets downstairs. Wouldn't mind but they would never tidy the bottles up at end of day. Oh yes and guess what they done when the bottles ran out!!!!!:O:O;-)

 

[crabpot]

For Christ sake the lad is only trying to drum up a bit of business for when the season starts not start WW3, also who do you think put our forces uniforms on in WW2 and where blowing out of the sky helping save this country from the Nazi's l bet nobody slagged them off then, as an ex soldier l for 1 would shake there hand and say thanks for your help

 

[kayos]

For Christ sake the lad is only trying to drum up a bit of business for when the season starts not start WW3, also who do you think put our forces uniforms on in WW2 and where blowing out of the sky helping save this country from the Nazi's l bet nobody slagged them off then, as an ex soldier l for 1 would shake there hand and say thanks for your help

Great point mate! How quickly they forget!

 

[spongebob]

For Christ sake the lad is only trying to drum up a bit of business for when the season starts not start WW3, also who do you think put our forces uniforms on in WW2 and where blowing out of the sky helping save this country from the Nazi's l bet nobody slagged them off then, as an ex soldier l for 1 would shake there hand and say thanks for your help

Not attacking any of the lads who fought for us,my grandad did aswell he was part of the evacuation of Normandy I know he lost alot of his mates that day.what happens if the worst scenario happens when out on boat does the skipper know fluent Polish to explain what's going on? Have we got some fluent speaking r.l.n.i. rescuers? Its normal someone wants to drum up more business but surely could there be some sort of h&s issue???? Please dont take any comment as a scathing attack im only voicing a few things that I don't think were mentioned if they have then I missed them lol ;-);-);-)

 

[on the mark]

kayos m8, go to your local job center, tel them your british , left school and worked all your life, paid your tax and stamp.
tell them you have carpal tunnel syndrome, vibration white finger, massive nerve damage and bowel cancer.
see how long it take's you 2 get sorted, when all the foreigner's around you are getting hand out's left right and centre.

yep you're right about that, people are dying and still waiting to get sorted, it's a disgrace.

 

[Winton]

Its the goverment system not the polish etc sort the system before u complain

 

[on the mark]

Its the goverment system not the polish etc sort the system before u complain

yeah it's the system and simply agreeing with his post because thats what is happening, never mentioned anything about the polish.

 

[kayos]

Kindly explain how the system favours foreigners over Brits? It doesn't. All get treated like pooh in job centres. I had to get my MP involved because I refused to be treated like that when I was unemployed. To assume Europeans somehow get better treatment or more benefits is complete nonsense.

 

[on the mark]

Kindly explain how the system favours foreigners over Brits? It doesn't. All get treated like pooh in job centres. I had to get my MP involved because I refused to be treated like that when I was unemployed. To assume Europeans somehow get better treatment or more benefits is complete nonsense.

on about two different things kayos, i've never mentioned anything about foreigners or polish people, i was agreeing with the post of how long it takes to get sorted if you've got health problems through the present system, atos has alot to answer for, people have died that they've said are fit for work man.

 

[kayos]

on about two different things kayos, i've never mentioned anything about foreigners or polish people, i was agreeing with the post of how long it takes to get sorted if you've got health problems through the present system, atos has alot to answer for, people have died that they've said are fit for work man.

Fair enough mate I presumed you were also agreeing to the part of the post that said "when all the foreigner's around you are getting hand out's left right and centre." Apologies for that. The system stinks and it stinks for all.

 

[conoflexman]

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what about we being a small island we are full. free movement of people in the eu who made that 1 up most british dont share houses costs etc like our eu friends all it dose is push up rents prices then theres a million plus illegal immigrants all needing a home and useing the local services what will happen when the bigger eu countrys like turkey are allowed here ps dont for get the rest of the world trying to get in