Ya don't have to put a rotten bottom on to everything ya hoy out mate. Like I said earlier you wouldn't want to use these on heavy ground because of the cost and more importantly on heavy ground you probably don't need those extra yards anyway. So whether it's splash down or outcast it's not even a flippin issue.
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Ya don't have to put a rotten bottom on to everything ya hoy out mate. Like I said earlier you wouldn't want to use these on heavy ground because of the cost and more importantly on heavy ground you probably don't need those extra yards anyway. So whether it's splash down or outcast it's not even a flippin issue.
harry barker
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I asked a question!!!!!!can a rotten bottom be used.
The beaches I fish I always use a rotten bottom,its not a completely rough ground but its mixed where you can get snagged and loose the fish and all the end gear as well.
I don't like this when it happens you don't only loose the fish and end gear but the fish drowns and you are also littering the beach with lost gear.
So I asked the question because its important to me so it is a flippin issue to me.
YoursTruly
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Harry, thats a reasonable question.
Looking at it the clip could possibly take one of the rotter type links, i will have good look and try some different links and give you a reply sometime over the weekend.
Gary is currently working on a rotten bottem system to work with the outcast system.
As for buying the clips seperate then thats a yes, cost you £3.50 for 10 clips.
Looking at it the clip could possibly take one of the rotter type links, i will have good look and try some different links and give you a reply sometime over the weekend.
Gary is currently working on a rotten bottem system to work with the outcast system.
As for buying the clips seperate then thats a yes, cost you £3.50 for 10 clips.
harry barker
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Thanks Terry,
Do you have the clips available now because I would like to try them out,and thats a very good price as well by the way.
Cheers H
john/r
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hi harry ,was the 175grm leads i got may try in the morning .realy looking forward to try the 200grm thats what i have been using for a while to get better grip.
i like the shape of them think they will realy fly.
anybody who prefers casting off the grounds and have problems wth hook coming off clip when lying on the bottom this is the lead for them wth the clip.
a very clever thought out clip imo.
if you pass mine tommorow late afternoon i will give you two to try might save you a journey to shields. john
Ok mate, hoy yer dosh away.
harry barker
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Cheers John,
might do that mate,cuppa tea and a bit craic.
You been eating raw meat mate....200grms y'll be putting yr back oot
.harry barker
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That's the idea.............to save money not hoy it away...rotten bottom you normally only loose the lead, and retrive all the rest including the fish
That's the whole point of what I've been saying, better to loose a 50p sinker on the rotten bottom than a state of the art one. It's a no brainer.
john/r
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Cheers John,
might do that mate,cuppa tea and a bit craic.
You been eating raw meat mate....200grms y'll be putting yr back oot
yes kettle will be on.
harry barker
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See you tomorrow John
RL83
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Here is a few words from Gary the Designer
Outcast leads & bait clips are the result of four years development and a
significant financial investment. The leads and clips have been developed purely for fishing and not the casting court.
The unique shape of the lead has been dictated by wind tunnel analysis and testing, the final shape is a balance between casting performance, bait protection and grip, all in one lead...... the unique bait clip allows the caster to place the rig on the ground without the risk of the hook falling off the bait clip, suiting in particular casters who use "off the ground" or "innertia" styles of casting.
The tension that is applied to the rig at the beginning of the cast releases the hook from the spring and onto the bait clip that is directly above it.
Originally developed for use with pulley rigs the system works equally well with paternosters, up & over rigs etc.
Outcast leads will be available in the following configurations.
Grip lead with outcast clip
Grip lead without clip
Plain lead with outcast clip
Plain lead without clip.
Cheers.
Gaz.
Some pics for you...
This is the outcast grip lead and clip, the leads look a lot smaller than a normal six ounce weight, the design gives protection to your bait during the cast and impact with the water. The top of the lead is rounded off and not like a flat back weight. Made from marine grade steel the clip won't rust away.
How to use...
In the picture below, on the left side of the clip is a small piece of steel that's under tension, you simply push this in like a button and it will grip your hook on the right hand side of the clip just as in the picture. You are now free to lay your terminal tackle on the ground, shake it about a bit and the hook will stay clipped to the bait holder.
On casting the hook will jump from it's before cast spring holder at the bottom of the clip immediately into the hook holder above in cast then releasing on impact with the water.
The hook position during flight immediately after the cast begins below.
got a couple of these off a mate in 5oz will give them a try
the concept like so many other bait clips is simplicity no complicated mechanisims here
Yer, all you need is a rotten bottom link, on any sinker. Still wouldn't be using leads like that in rough ground like, not at £2 a pop
