these are decent ,warm and waterproof although they let water soak into them it doesnt run off--- one thing to watch out for is stressing the pockets with your hands in , the stitching comes away . especially when your seated.
i sewed mine in a few corners with thick thread. should of been pop rivited , the pockets could of done with a drain hole too , as they fill up with water thats why I got the greys ones the pockets on the sundridge top and bottoms are really badly designed but kept me warm and dry