Just a thought
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Pete from shields
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Same can be said for all walks of life mate, look at these driving stats, how many would be alive if they didn't drive, a little common sense goes a long way in what we do. 
Speeding
Around 400 people a year are killed in crashes in which someone exceeds the speed limit or drives too fast for the conditions.
Drink Driving
Around 280 people die a year in crashes in which someone was over the legal drink drive limit.
Seat Belt Wearing
Around 200 lives each year could be saved if everyone always wore their seat belt.
Careless Driving
More than 300 deaths a year involve someone being "careless, reckless or in a hurry", and a further 120 involve "aggressive driving".
At-work
Around one third of fatal and serious road crashes involve someone who was at work.
Inexperience
More than 400 people are killed in crashes involving young car drivers aged 17 to 24 years, every year, including over 150 young drivers, 90 passengers and more than 170 other road users.
Speeding
Around 400 people a year are killed in crashes in which someone exceeds the speed limit or drives too fast for the conditions.
Drink Driving
Around 280 people die a year in crashes in which someone was over the legal drink drive limit.
Seat Belt Wearing
Around 200 lives each year could be saved if everyone always wore their seat belt.
Careless Driving
More than 300 deaths a year involve someone being "careless, reckless or in a hurry", and a further 120 involve "aggressive driving".
At-work
Around one third of fatal and serious road crashes involve someone who was at work.
Inexperience
More than 400 people are killed in crashes involving young car drivers aged 17 to 24 years, every year, including over 150 young drivers, 90 passengers and more than 170 other road users.
Same can be said for all walks of life mate, look at these driving stats, how many would be alive if they didn't drive, a little common sense goes a long way in what we do.
Speeding
Around 400 people a year are killed in crashes in which someone exceeds the speed limit or drives too fast for the conditions.
Drink Driving
Around 280 people die a year in crashes in which someone was over the legal drink drive limit.
Seat Belt Wearing
Around 200 lives each year could be saved if everyone always wore their seat belt.
Careless Driving
More than 300 deaths a year involve someone being "careless, reckless or in a hurry", and a further 120 involve "aggressive driving".
At-work
Around one third of fatal and serious road crashes involve someone who was at work.
Inexperience
More than 400 people are killed in crashes involving young car drivers aged 17 to 24 years, every year, including over 150 young drivers, 90 passengers and more than 170 other road users.
That's exactly what red 5 is saying through neglect and sheer stupidness people are needlessly dying. What really annoys me is a lad I know spends thousands of pounds on rods and reels yet when asked about his first aid kit on his boat the response was "waste of money" I laughed and said your stupid
kayos
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Hands up who has ever been on a charter boat and been given a life-jacket to wear? What, no one?
OK hands up who has ever been on a charter boat and been given a safety talk before leaving port? I think I see maybe one hand up at the back.
Hmm, thought so!
I wouldn't want to wear a life-jacket all day but we probably should, however I wold appreciate a safety talk before leaving port, even if it's just to find out where the jackets and first aid box are stowed!
OK hands up who has ever been on a charter boat and been given a safety talk before leaving port? I think I see maybe one hand up at the back.
Hmm, thought so!
I wouldn't want to wear a life-jacket all day but we probably should, however I wold appreciate a safety talk before leaving port, even if it's just to find out where the jackets and first aid box are stowed!
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I agree with that in a way but every individual is in charge of there own safety, I always ask we're the life jackets are kept
kayos
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I certainly don't want to fall out with any charter Skippers believe me. We all are responsible for accepting the lack of safety drills, but to suggest it is up to the paying customer to be responsible for their own safety is nonsense. Can you imagine a plane or ferry load of passengers, scurrying about searching for the life jackets before take off/setting sail?!
On lighter note, why do planes have life jackets? By that logic, ferries should have parachutes!? I have always wanted to shout out on a plane, where are the parachutes? I mean if a plane hits the water from 35,000ft you will be dead anyway!
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Pete from shields
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I suppose we all walk to our fishing marks then.
My point is no matter what we do we put ourselves at risk, a little common sense goes a long way as I said.
Red5
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I just thought it was interesting that anglers had the highest number of fatalities!
Risk is inherent in everything we do, but we can mitigate it by taking precautions.
As Pete from Shields mentions, there are inumerate risks in driving, but the majority of deaths in driving are caused by recklessness, so like watersports, taking precautions will lessen the risk!
We have probably all had a car crash, I myself wrote my car off last year when I hit a patch of black Ice....I could claim it was not my fault, as the road had not been gritted on a notorious bad bend, but I had my seat belt on, was not speeding, was not driving carelessly and had not been drinking....I walked away.......On the very same night only a few miles away, a young lad, driving too fast and apparently under the influence crashed his car...He is no longer with us.
Here's a thought....two guys on a boat....sea suddenly lifts....boat sinks...One guy is wearing a lifejacket....the other isn't...Whose chance of returning home to see his family is higher?
Risk is inherent in everything we do, but we can mitigate it by taking precautions.
As Pete from Shields mentions, there are inumerate risks in driving, but the majority of deaths in driving are caused by recklessness, so like watersports, taking precautions will lessen the risk!
We have probably all had a car crash, I myself wrote my car off last year when I hit a patch of black Ice....I could claim it was not my fault, as the road had not been gritted on a notorious bad bend, but I had my seat belt on, was not speeding, was not driving carelessly and had not been drinking....I walked away.......On the very same night only a few miles away, a young lad, driving too fast and apparently under the influence crashed his car...He is no longer with us.
Here's a thought....two guys on a boat....sea suddenly lifts....boat sinks...One guy is wearing a lifejacket....the other isn't...Whose chance of returning home to see his family is higher?
Thunderpants
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It isn't just boats. Quite a few of that number are probably shore fishermen falling off rocks, being washed off piers etc, plenty of instances of that type of thing reported on nesa in the past. I am thinking off getting a life jacket to wear when I'm pollack fishing off some of the more dodgy rock marks up Scotland. It may not look cool but being dead is not cool either.
phill_itofish
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As a Kayak angler i never head out with out my PFD (Personal Floatation Device), although i have never though of using one on the rocks.
Just a note, A "Life Jacket" and a PFD are different things. My understanding of it was always (and im going back a few years) a "Life Jacket" will have a collar to support your neck keeping your head out the water if your unconscious but a PFD (or buoyancy aid as they were back then) will just help you to float.
There are a few kicking around made with rock fishing in mind.
the RIVALLEY RRB SHORT FLOATATION VEST BV-14 looks ok but expensive for what it is
Just a note, A "Life Jacket" and a PFD are different things. My understanding of it was always (and im going back a few years) a "Life Jacket" will have a collar to support your neck keeping your head out the water if your unconscious but a PFD (or buoyancy aid as they were back then) will just help you to float.
There are a few kicking around made with rock fishing in mind.
the RIVALLEY RRB SHORT FLOATATION VEST BV-14 looks ok but expensive for what it is
Thunderpants
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Thanks Phill that looks good but I was thinking more along these sort of lines something that will automatically inflate if you fall in but is small and does not restrict casting when not in use Angling and Fishing Lifejackets - Products - Marine Warehouse Ltd
Juliogeordio
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I suppose we all walk to our fishing marks then.
My point is no matter what we do we put ourselves at risk, a little common sense goes a long way as I said.
But how many walkers are mown down by runaway dogs and push chairs? Dangers in every walk of life, be aware of them and mitigate the risk before making an informed decision. On your toes be it lol
Juliogeordio
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That's a good point mike... There is defo scope to wear some form of life jacket / preserver when rock hoping or I suppose you can even argue the merit of wearing one whilst winter fishin off the piers. I suppose most lad won't fork out the cash though unfortunatly
Pete from shields
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LMFAO brilliant,
nice one Mike, though I reckon I'd look a right pillock at the walkway or pier wearing one of them lol.
