killing fish to keep

Wasabi said:
shall we apply the same rules for lobsters, crabs...mussels....maybe even plants?

i guess anyone who eats, uses, kills living creatures is in the same dilemma ...never easy.

still every carefully caught and taken fish from the sea is better than trawler or longline stuff.

i somehow refuse to compare the dispatching of a mammal with the one of a fish.

how do we know that slamming a fish dead or stabbing etc is "kind" and better than any other method.

lobster lovers around the world argue what is the "nicest" way to kill them...and surprise surprise nobody knows really

i would say, leave it with evryone and stop lecturing...maybe holding a coalie in the eyesocket is a very good way of holding them? Some say that grabbing them by the gills is awful...its their lungs !!
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ALL I'm advocating is kill keepers as soon as landed
 
wowza another radge thread !! cant believe treating your catch with a bit of respect and dispatching it as humanely as possible even comes up for discussion.
 
humane is for the girls

humane is for the girls

Iv'e yet to have an answer as to why its wrong to knock keepers when they are landed before unhooking..the curly lip brigade saying its wrong stupid but a deafening silence when asked to explain the reason to this misguided soul as to WHY i'm wrong..... or alternatively why its RIGHT and indeed prefeable to operate on live concious fish..???? could it be there isnt one???
 
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I wouldn't worry neefish, silence from the numpties taking a pop at you is most surely golden! All my keepers get the last rights given to them with a priest BEFORE unhooking takes place. It should be standard practice to dispatch a keeper ASAP before unhooking but some tools obviously think otherwise.
 
Saw a bloke today, he caught a small Thorney (?) (which was drop netted by someone else) then he whacked it on the ground & took it up to the end of the pier, appeared to show it to some lads then chucked it back in I think, (at least, when he came back he didn't have it.)
What's that all about?
 
Ez2cDave said:
Google up the term "IKI JIME" . . .
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Never seen that method before Dave but I have cut through the backbone behind the head. I assumed that this stopped the heart immediately. Obviously you should always dispatch keepers immediately on landing and before any surgical hook removal.
 
After reading all the replies to this thread, I've come to the conclusion that it's just a matter of showing compassion, those who don't show any are probably like that on many everyday things.
 
canman? That 30 punder off Balcary, was it off the flat rock? If so then you are Chris Stringer and I claim my £5. I was there when you caught it and my mate handballed it up onto the rock.
 
The Doctor said:
canman? That 30 punder off Balcary, was it off the flat rock? If so then you are Chris Stringer and I claim my £5. I was there when you caught it and my mate handballed it up onto the rock.
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I'm afraid you're £5 will have to go unclaimed - canman isn't Chris, although is another old Whitley club member;) I think Chris's went to about 32lb (think he had 2 over 30 and 2 20's that session).

Gary :)
 
g-force said:
I'm afraid you're £5 will have to go unclaimed - canman isn't Chris, although is another old Whitley club member;) I think Chris's went to about 32lb (think he had 2 over 30 and 2 20's that session).

Gary :)
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Cheers Gary. The one I saw was Chris Stringers. I believe it was weighed at 28 and a bit pound (It might have been a different session) but these fish tend to 'get bigger' as the years go by. A bit like the first fish I ever caught which was a 7 pound blennie out of Sunderland North Dock corner when I was about 7 years old.
 
i absulutly hate it when i see anglers landing fish and leaving them to flap about till they are dead from suffacation or riving hooks out of their mouths when they are still alive, if you want to keep the fish kill it quickly with a sharp knock on the head right between its eyes its as easy as that ,dont leave them to suffer they are wild living creatures not a piece of ****, show them a little respect, after all its the fish that give us our sport without them we would not have a sport.
 
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