Lack of posting in freshwater section

Ian, I'm sure Jim would gladly help other pike anglers if they asked for advice on venues, baits, rigs etc but the point he's trying to make is that big pike are becoming rarer (Chew Valley aside) due to increased angling pressure, poor handling etc so it's in the best interests of the big fish for the location of big pike captures to be kept quiet, otherwise that venue where a big pike was caught would certainly see increased angling pressure which would be detrimental to the big fish.

However, I also see your point of view regarding non informative catch reports (big pike captures not included of course!) from NESA members (there's usually a few in the shore angling reports) where they only serve as an ego boost to the person who has written the report then followed up by several replies of nice fish mate, cracking catch pal blah blah blah zzzzzzzz.

Cheers for that mate, and you will see on your thread where I leave an open question about if you wanted to catch a pike on a lure, my thinking was your a bass/sea angler wanting to catch a pike on a lure for the first time or for the species challenge where I've assisted in the past. Again I could help!

As for the ego thing, I went through my thread starts and most of the catch results the venue was given and I was promoting the venue to help others. Most of which are not pike but you have given the reasons in your posts.

To lighten this thread up a bit, I once went to a water I'd done some homework on. We got there and met the owner who took our money. I asked about pike catches and he said it's been poor, but his words there is a big ******* in here. He left and we fished on.
The next day we were there and he came round and asked how we had done. I said we had blanked. He just took the money and left. Little did he know I had that big ******* at well over 20lb. They had a match on the lake and one of the match lads caught a jack and was mocking us pike anglers for struggling. That's pike angling, not many people know about the big ******* and after the match lads went I had 3 pike.
 
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the point I have made is how do new anglers get introduced to a new sport or expand their knowledge with people like you who want to keep everything secret.did you become a pike angler without any help,i don't think so.Why do you bother posting if you don't want anyone to know anything.This is my final say on this post.

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Also, I take it you read this post? Or did you choose to ignore it?

Why would I choose to ignore it,as an ex(due to ill health) experienced PIKE,CARP,COARSE,SEA ANGLER enjoy reading all posts on this site.Your never to old to learn.
 
Well please don't ever disrespect my integrity to pass on knowledge again then Ian, and best wishes Jim.

It would appear that constructive debate isn't allowed in your world,so why on earth did you ask the question in the first place.And I don't take kindly to threats.
 
It would appear that constructive debate isn't allowed in your world,so why on earth did you ask the question in the first place.And I don't take kindly to threats.


Ian I'm struggling to pick out anything constructive from your posts, and if you find please and best wishes as threatening then I'm speechless.
 
I find the words"DONT EVER"threatening and "BEST WISHES" SARCASTIC to say the least.I will not respond again as my time is precious so you may have the last word.
 
might not be many posts as its NESA - north east SEA angling.
So if people are searching the net for forums and info on freshwater they probably wouldn't think of looking in NESA. Most freshwater anglers are most likely on freshwater forums.
 
IANG, you say your time is precious yet you have come on here and had a dig at Jim when he had every right not to reveal the location of his big pike capture (you are obviously not an experienced pike angler,otherwise you would have understood this) for reasons explained by him and then myself. He has written some excellent posts on NESA aswell as replying to other members who wanted advice, including yourself, yet somehow you still aren't happy so you should really use your precious time more constructively rather than whinge on to someone who has helped you and other anglers.

Have you ever helped anyone on this forum or do you just take a pop at those that do?

As for helping newcomers to the sport, anyone with brain would realise there's a wealth of information available these days (alot of which is free) through books, websites, forums, DVDs etc so there's more than enough information out there to help a novice get started.

Nothing you have written on this thread is constructive so next time please try and offer something that is ;-)
 
what i have noticed there is very little freshwater gear in the for sale section compaired to other years

I have listed fresh water gear for sale with zero reply. because this site is for sea fishing lads one or two do fresh water but the majority are sea anglers.
if you need fresh water gear its best to use fresh water sites to buy and sell gear and any info on fresh water.
I have had good advice from lads on this site about sea fishing, as I just started back sea fishing last year after a very long time away from sea fishing.
I find nesa to be a great site for banta and advice and buying sea tackle.
best thing I have done for years joining nesa.
 
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IANG, you say your time is precious yet you have come on here and had a dig at Jim when he had every right not to reveal the location of his big pike capture (you are obviously not an experienced pike angler,otherwise you would have understood this) for reasons explained by him and then myself. He has written some excellent posts on NESA aswell as replying to other members who wanted advice, including yourself, yet somehow you still aren't happy so you should really use your precious time more constructively rather than whinge on to someone who has helped you and other anglers.

Have you ever helped anyone on this forum or do you just take a pop at those that do?

As for helping newcomers to the sport, anyone with brain would realise there's a wealth of information available these days (alot of which is free) through books, websites, forums, DVDs etc so there's more than enough information out there to help a novice get started.

Nothing you have written on this thread is constructive so next time please try and offer something that is ;-)

And whats it got to do with you.I am an experienced angler and have helped many many lads on this site.Get your facts right before you have a pop at me.If your another one of the secret service don't post then I wont comment.:mad:
 
And whats it got to do with you.I am an experienced angler and have helped many many lads on this site.Get your facts right before you have a pop at me.If your another one of the secret service don't post then I wont comment.:mad:

Well if you didn't want anyone else to reply to your unfair comments directed at Jim then why on earth did you post them on the forum when you could've done it discreetly by sending him a private message?????

You cannot be an experienced pike angler, otherwise you would've known and understood mine and Jim's reasons for not revealing the location of big pike captures.

Do you finally understand why it's best not to broadcast the location of big pike captures? It's because it's in the best interests of the fish. If you can't see or accept this very important point then there really is no point in having a debate with you.

What facts have I got wrong exactly?

You'll see from my previous comment that I was asking you a question if you had helped anyone on here, I never accused you of not helping other anglers. FACT!

My previous comment was fully justified as you unfairly had a pop at Jim even though he's put some excellent info on this forum and he's even helped you, yet you obviously must have forgotten this and still had a go at him.

I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to send unfair comments to helpful anglers such as Jim. Shame you can't say the same eh Ian?

I'm an honest angler willing to help others, I'm not a member of the MI5, MI6, KGB, Foreign Legion, FBI or any other secret service group so put that in ya pipe and smoke it! :D:D:D:D;)
 
I dont understand why people need so much info find a lake that has pike and fish it thats how u gain knowledge by getting out and fishing the diffrent locations
 
Ian, I'm sure Jim would gladly help other pike anglers if they asked for advice on venues, baits, rigs etc but the point he's trying to make is that big pike are becoming rarer (Chew Valley aside) due to increased angling pressure, poor handling etc so it's in the best interests of the big fish for the location of big pike captures to be kept quiet, otherwise that venue where a big pike was caught would certainly see increased angling pressure which would be detrimental to the big fish.

However, I also see your point of view regarding non informative catch reports (big pike captures not included of course!) from NESA members (there's usually a few in the shore angling reports) where they only serve as an ego boost to the person who has written the report then followed up by several replies of nice fish mate, cracking catch pal blah blah blah zzzzzzzz.

If you took the time to read my initial reply to Jims original posting then you would realise that nothing in the original reply was in any way directed at Jim or pike anglers.It was merely my observations to jims question ,a point which you seemed to agree with:confused:As to the decimation of pike certainly on the waters I used to fish was down to the huge pressure being put on the baitfish stocks due to an explosion in the population of otters and cormorants and not illegal fishing.I have a great respect for Jim as an angler and think in the cold light of day that maybe both of us regret turning an honest reply into a personal keyboard war.
 
Im quite sure that if every post was as honest and informative and interesting as BUSHWACKER then the younger and perhaps the older members would become much more interested and give it a try.Its of no interest to anyone to read of an excellent fish been caught at a secret venue.Its only a personal ego trip for the person involved.

Your comment was a thinly disguised pop at Jim as he was the only person who mentioned big fish captures in this thread without revealing where he caught them.

Also, his original question mentioned the lack of posts on here about freshwater fishing in general, not about a lack of catch reports.

I agreed with your view about uninformative catch reports EXCEPT big pike captures for reasons already explained.
 
the point I have made is how do new anglers get introduced to a new sport or expand their knowledge with people like you who want to keep everything secret.did you become a pike angler without any help,i don't think so.Why do you bother posting if you don't want anyone to know anything.This is my final say on this post.

If you really think your comment above isn't classed as having a pop at Jim then you need help!

At least you seem to be backtracking by saying you respect Jim but you've got a strange way of showing it! :D
 
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