Locally Caught Tuna !!

wow how cool, is it ilegal to keep tuna if caught? just wondering as i have no clue and can only learn. :D

Just stick it in a tin, nobody would notice.. lol

If our seas are warming, why was it still freezing paddling in the sea at Whitby on Thursday? Unless its age as the kids didnt seem to feel the cold..:D:D
 
There was a thread on here about tunny a couple of weeks ago, sparked off by the unusual catches of herring, which may or may not be making a comeback. I doubt we will see catches return like before the 1950's but we are bound to see odd reports like this with some exciting finds. There are no fences enclosing the North sea and if a giant like a sperm whale can be found at redcar whats stopping anything else passing through or paying a visit ?

Anyone remember the swordfish caught in nets at newbiggin in 2006 ?

Jonny:)
 
UK tuna fishing began in 1929. Famous angler Mr Stapleton-Cotton hooked two large fish estimated at well over 600lbs off Scarborough, Yorkshire, but sadly lost both.
The summer and fall of 1930 proved decisive. It was August 27th when Mitchell-Henry sunk a hook into a tuna weighing 560lbs some 50 miles off Scarborough. The season didn't end there. A further four fish weighing 392lbs, 591lbs, 630lbs and 735lbs.
The 1932 season was a total contrast and proved the best for overall numbers caught. In total, 21 bluefin were captured with several fish over 700lbs in weight.
The climax for UK tuna was reached in 1933 with a fish that is still the UK record weighing 851lbs taken off Whitby in Yorkshire, again by Mitchell-Henry. The technological advances in electronics spawned by the war made fishing vessels far more effective. Quickly, both the once abundant mackerel and herring stocks of the North Sea were depleted to such a degree that the food supply was much reduced. This lack of food was blamed for the disappearance of the tuna.
 
851lb:eek:

imagine just catching small ones even 10-50lb would be great sport on the right gear

mabey if our seas where managed properly its somthing we could have in the next few years:rolleyes:
 
851lb:eek:

imagine just catching small ones even 10-50lb would be great sport on the right gear

mabey if our seas where managed properly its somthing we could have in the next few years:rolleyes:

Here's a passage courtesy of wikipedia concerning the Atlantic bluefin:

Fully mature adult specimens average 2–2.5 metres (6 ft 7 in–8 ft 2 in) long and around 350 kilograms (770 lb) in weight. The species can reach a maximum length of about 4.3 metres (14 ft). The largest recorded specimen taken under International Game Fish Association rules was caught off Nova Scotia, an area renowned for huge Atlantic bluefin, by Ken Fraser and weighed 679 kilograms (1,497 lb). According to Gordon Johnston's 'It Happened in Canada'[4] the longest contest between man and tuna fish occurred near Liverpool, Nova Scotia in 1934, when 6 men, taking turns, fought the 795-lb tuna in a terrific battle that lasted sixty-two hours.

That last fish definitely put up one helluva scrap:o

Gary :)
 
British Tunny.

British Tunny.

The British Tunny Club H.Q. was based at Scarborough until 1952. The Record fish that Lorenzo Mitchell-Henry caught was brought ashore at Whitby and taken to Scarborough so possibly lost a few pounds by the time it was weighed.The rod and reel used was designed by the cowboy story writer Zane Gray and was built to his specification by Hardy's of Alnwick. The combined weight of the rod and reel is about 50lbs. plus.
Line was Irish hemp, a cotton type of material and the poundage of the line was dependent on the number of strands, for instance, 10 strands might be something like 100lbs. breaking strain. The line used by Mitchell-Henry was 20 strand. The hook was a Mustad 20/0, there was a steel trace of 25ft. which is the I.G.F.A. standard length.
There was NO stretch in either the line or steel trace and virtually no bend in the rod, so to act as a shock absorber a piece of leather about 12 inches in length was doubled and whipped onto the line between it and the steel trace. Leather when it is wet will stretch and in this case this leather "shocker"would stretch to 18 inches or more to take the shock of the fish diving and running.
The rod was built on the lines of a split cane but instead of bamboo the material used was Lance Wood. There was no glue used in the making of the rod the only thing holding it together were the rod whippings, take them off and it fell apart, the reason for this is, imagine a fish off 1,000 lbs. and more being hooked there would be hardly any bend in the rod and if it was glued together the strain on it would just explode it. There was a steel rod running up the centre of the rod and this made it even stiffer.
The reel alone in 1930 cost £300, the rod was a little cheaper at £200, work that out at todays prices and you can see it was a rich mans sport.
It is thought that the Tunny still run up the N.E. coast each year as they have done for hundreds of years following the herring shoals, as a huge shoal of them was seen only about 15 years ago, some 40 miles off.
 
The British Tunny Club H.Q. was based at Scarborough until 1952. The Record fish that Lorenzo Mitchell-Henry caught was brought ashore at Whitby and taken to Scarborough so possibly lost a few pounds by the time it was weighed.The rod and reel used was designed by the cowboy story writer Zane Gray and was built to his specification by Hardy's of Alnwick. The combined weight of the rod and reel is about 50lbs. plus.
Line was Irish hemp, a cotton type of material and the poundage of the line was dependent on the number of strands, for instance, 10 strands might be something like 100lbs. breaking strain. The line used by Mitchell-Henry was 20 strand. The hook was a Mustad 20/0, there was a steel trace of 25ft. which is the I.G.F.A. standard length.
There was NO stretch in either the line or steel trace and virtually no bend in the rod, so to act as a shock absorber a piece of leather about 12 inches in length was doubled and whipped onto the line between it and the steel trace. Leather when it is wet will stretch and in this case this leather "shocker"would stretch to 18 inches or more to take the shock of the fish diving and running.
The rod was built on the lines of a split cane but instead of bamboo the material used was Lance Wood. There was no glue used in the making of the rod the only thing holding it together were the rod whippings, take them off and it fell apart, the reason for this is, imagine a fish off 1,000 lbs. and more being hooked there would be hardly any bend in the rod and if it was glued together the strain on it would just explode it. There was a steel rod running up the centre of the rod and this made it even stiffer.
The reel alone in 1930 cost £300, the rod was a little cheaper at £200, work that out at todays prices and you can see it was a rich mans sport.
It is thought that the Tunny still run up the N.E. coast each year as they have done for hundreds of years following the herring shoals, as a huge shoal of them was seen only about 15 years ago, some 40 miles off.

Great right up mate, really interesting.
 
just imagine if we had not totally decimated the herring shoals only took what was needed,catching blue fin tuna from our shore line durring the summer months could have been a reality, instead of macky bashing we could have been using the mackerel as bait for a bit of tuna bashing ,even the small [joey] tuna are 25lbs plus and they go off like a steam train,why do we seem intent on destroying every bit of marine life in our waters, for what, a quick buck,does anyone think in the long term anymore, is there not more important issues than temporary financially security,or am i just a dreamer.
 
just imagine if we had not totally decimated the herring shoals only took what was needed,catching blue fin tuna from our shore line durring the summer months could have been a reality, instead of macky bashing we could have been using the mackerel as bait for a bit of tuna bashing ,even the small [joey] tuna are 25lbs plus and they go off like a steam train,why do we seem intent on destroying every bit of marine life in our waters, for what, a quick buck,does anyone think in the long term anymore, is there not more important issues than temporary financially security,or am i just a dreamer.

Yep it is a shame but if they had authorisation to do it then maybe they didn't realise or understand the impact their actions would have, until the fish ran out like. So yes "we", at the time, did it.
 
The British Tunny Club H.Q. was based at Scarborough until 1952. The Record fish that Lorenzo Mitchell-Henry caught was brought ashore at Whitby and taken to Scarborough so possibly lost a few pounds by the time it was weighed.The rod and reel used was designed by the cowboy story writer Zane Gray and was built to his specification by Hardy's of Alnwick. The combined weight of the rod and reel is about 50lbs. plus.
Line was Irish hemp, a cotton type of material and the poundage of the line was dependent on the number of strands, for instance, 10 strands might be something like 100lbs. breaking strain. The line used by Mitchell-Henry was 20 strand. The hook was a Mustad 20/0, there was a steel trace of 25ft. which is the I.G.F.A. standard length.
There was NO stretch in either the line or steel trace and virtually no bend in the rod, so to act as a shock absorber a piece of leather about 12 inches in length was doubled and whipped onto the line between it and the steel trace. Leather when it is wet will stretch and in this case this leather "shocker"would stretch to 18 inches or more to take the shock of the fish diving and running.
The rod was built on the lines of a split cane but instead of bamboo the material used was Lance Wood. There was no glue used in the making of the rod the only thing holding it together were the rod whippings, take them off and it fell apart, the reason for this is, imagine a fish off 1,000 lbs. and more being hooked there would be hardly any bend in the rod and if it was glued together the strain on it would just explode it. There was a steel rod running up the centre of the rod and this made it even stiffer.
The reel alone in 1930 cost £300, the rod was a little cheaper at £200, work that out at todays prices and you can see it was a rich mans sport.
It is thought that the Tunny still run up the N.E. coast each year as they have done for hundreds of years following the herring shoals, as a huge shoal of them was seen only about 15 years ago, some 40 miles off.

great read:)
 
just imagine if we had not totally decimated the herring shoals only took what was needed,catching blue fin tuna from our shore line durring the summer months could have been a reality, instead of macky bashing we could have been using the mackerel as bait for a bit of tuna bashing ,even the small [joey] tuna are 25lbs plus and they go off like a steam train,why do we seem intent on destroying every bit of marine life in our waters, for what, a quick buck,does anyone think in the long term anymore, is there not more important issues than temporary financially security,or am i just a dreamer.

yet again too late was the cry. it would be fantastic regulary catching them on this coast!:D
 
just imagine if we had not totally decimated the herring shoals only took what was needed,catching blue fin tuna from our shore line durring the summer months could have been a reality, instead of macky bashing we could have been using the mackerel as bait for a bit of tuna bashing ,even the small [joey] tuna are 25lbs plus and they go off like a steam train,why do we seem intent on destroying every bit of marine life in our waters, for what, a quick buck,does anyone think in the long term anymore, is there not more important issues than temporary financially security,or am i just a dreamer.

IMHO exactly the same will happen to the humble mackerel judging the reaction of people and over fishing of them on piers, seen people with bags full of the stuff. I was even told that last summer some chinkies had a wheelie bin of them on Shields pier, we don't seem to learn anything until it's too late.
 
There are no fences enclosing the North sea and if a giant like a sperm whale can be found at redcar whats stopping anything else passing through or paying a visit ?


Jonny:)

Though that sperm whale did go to Redcar to die, that's not a regular occurrence even for Redcar, and I thought the tradition was to swim away from Redcar to die.

No in all seriousness for anglers its great to see more bio-diversity in the sea, as long as this is not at the detriment of already established species, though we need to continue the good work that many anglers have done for years and keep returning these newcomers so they can establish themselves.
 
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