main line/shock leader/knot ??

kela66

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what breaking strain main line do you lads recommend 15 / 18 / 20 ? & does everyone use the 10lb for every oz of lead plus another 10 guide for the shockleader ? also will a tapered leader be better for a novice ? and one last question what is everyones favorite knot to tie them together , many thanks davey :)
 
i use 20lb mainline and 60lb shockleader (for a 6oz lead) and the best knot you'll ever use is the bimini twist, the hooks will snap before the knot will
 
i used to use red ice mono then after reading quite a few good reports about diawa sensor i tried it and ive used it ever since. the bimini is very hard to learn but its worth it when you see how strong it is, ive used it for a few months now and its never snapped.
 
go on utube type in knots some easy ones and sum will take abit of learning
as for line to shocker 18 main 60 shocker thats on a small reel on larger one 25 main 60 shocker
hope this helps
 
I use 15lb on my little reels (usually Ultima F1), & 20 & 30lb trilene on my 525 & Slosh's respectively. I also use the Bimini - was lucky that someone showed me how to tie it so I picked it up right away - looking at some of the "how-to" picture sequences make it look like a nightmare! I've had the 60lb leader that I use snap before the mainline when fast-up with this combination. :)
 
I use 18lb or 20lb Ultima F1 on my reels with a 60lb shockleader for 6oz leads. I tried following a few online guides to learn the bimini twist but I still can't get my head around it so I use the albright knot which is the smallest knot I've seen and has good strength, but I'll have to get someone to teach me the bimini one day.
 
I have 20lb line on me reel and 60lb-80lb shockleader.

I use 10lb's of shockleader per ounce of weight i'm casting; similar to below numbers;

1ounces=10lbs
2ounces=20lbs
3 ounces=30lbs
4 ounces=40lbs
5 ounces=50lbs
6ounces=60lbs and so on...
 
Beaches I use 15 - 18lb mainline with a 50lb shock.
Rocks I use 30lb straight through (no shock) since I'm not chucking very far usually.
Spinning I use 10lb, no shock since the spinners are so light.

As for line, I just buy whatever is on special at the time :)
 
18ib Diawa sensor to 60 ib suffix leader for general beach/pier fishing. 30ib straight through for rock work (sensor)
As for knots I never see the need for the bimini twist. Theres no doubt its a strong knot but only puts a loop in your mainline. The key knot is the one joining the mainline to the shocker. I loop the mainline over, pass the shocker through and around three times then back out and trim off. The only real benefit I can see to creating a loop is if your main knot slipped.

The sea angler rigs video is good for showing knots
 
the benefit you get from the bimini is that it retains 1oo% of the line's strength

what I mean is that it only forms the loop for the shock leader to attach to. The key is that your leader is tied so as to grip two pieces of mainline (by looping it over) rather than one(as with a bloodknot). I used the bimini for a while but now dont because of the above. If you dont believe me then try it out.
 
one is to pass the leader through the loop then around the two strands three times. then push the leader back out the loop and tighten.
second way is to pass the leader through the mainline loop then around the leader twice (around the finger) and through. gently pull the mainline and the leader passes over the two strands of the mainline loop and tightens around them(around their outsides rather than the end). this means it grips the two strands so it doesn't matter whether the free end is cut off or tied as per the bimini. knots are shown on sea angler video/dvd.
 
Sorry, you're wrong Jonesy. The knots strength comes through the fact you're using double the strength of your main line, as you leader is wrapped around the loop (if you tie it correctly)...

A Little History
In the heyday of big game fishing, back in the 1950's, giant Bluefin Tuna passed by the islands of the Bahamas in huge numbers during their annual migration. At this time the pioneers of our great sport regarded the Bluefin Tuna as the ultimate adversary in the ocean far more powerful and physically demanding than a Marlin of similar size.
Almost every item of tackle and equipment that we now regard as standard equipment in the big game fishing world was first developed to tackle these monster tuna, and by monster we are talking about fish that can top a 1000lb in weight. Bent butt rods, roller guides, lever drag reels, two speed reels, fighting chairs and fighting harnesses all came about because of the desire to catch these massive fish. Even the basic design of the modern big game fishing boat was first evolved in this prolific tuna fishery by such legendary boat builders as Merritt and Rybovich. Here speed and maneuverability were vital to stay in touch with the movements of the fish.
Another small, but incredibly significant, development of this era was a knot that has become known as the Bimini Twist, named after the island of Bimini where much of the history of giant Bluefin Tuna fishing was created. The sheer power of these fish meant that it was essential to eliminate every possible weakness in the tackle and equipment. The knot that was used to join the main reel line to the leader connection was one such weakness and the Bimini Twist was born to help solve this problem.
The Bimini Twist is not a "knot" as such. It cannot be used directly to tie on a swivel, hook or leader and it works by forming a double thickness section at the end of the main reel line. The significant property of the Bimini Twist is that, when correctly tied, the line retains 100% of its original strength. Conventional knots (blood knot, uni knot, etc.) reduce the line strength quite considerably due to their tendency to "strangle" themselves when put under heavy pressure. The doubled section of line that is created by the Bimini Twist is used to tie onto the swivel, hook, leader, etc, and a conventional knot can now be used as double the thickness means double the strength and this more than compensates for the loss of strength within the knot.


The Bimini Twist | Sea Fishing and Sea Angling Online
 
i use the figure of eight knot to attach to the bimini, i think thats what you described. check the thread bimini twist ive put a link and a diagram on there
 
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