MCZ meetings

[Charlton]

Meetings regarding the implications of Marine Coastal Zones could come about. I want to compile a list of people who could be invited. What I want is for each club to select two members of each North East club and send their names, addresses phone number and e mail address to me. One is really for standby just in case, but would be best if both could attend meetings. If NESA wants to select a couple please do so.

send deatils to me

[email protected]

 

[Charlton]

come on lads if you want to know what is happening get your club represented. Meeting should take place in a month or two's time.

 

[elton]

These could have major implications for sea anglers. I've already witnessed one sea angling rep indicate that he might suggest cod spawning areas and migratory routes as areas where we aren't allowed to fish!

 

[sam harris]

MCZs.

MCZs.

Alan.
The meetings that are going to be arranged regionally are going to be open to everyone, not just invited representatives. These as you say should start happening in about a couple of months time. The meeting that is being held in Birmingham in April is by invitation only.

 

[anndy]

these meeting's should be open to everyone not just the choosen few, like clubs and the so like , every sea angler has the right to know what these m c z are about.

why should it be a club or fishing organization

 

[Charlton]

these meeting's should be open to everyone not just the choosen few, like clubs and the so like , every sea angler has the right to know what these m c z are about.

why should it be a club or fishing organization

the meetings will be open to everyone, I am just asking for anglers from clubs who wish to be represented, maybe I should not have said invited, so I can let the powers that be who will be represented. If somebody can give me a name of the person who will represent the none organisation members, who out number organisation members by about three or four to one, is a braver man than me gunga din. When the time comes all anglers will have to be invited. Maybe those who are moaning will stick their hand up and represent the non organisation anglers. Funny how nobody volunteered when i first posted this thread. It is only by my intervention that you are getting any say at all in the matter, you have seen or you should have, the thread about MCZ's and my interview with one of the powers that be, and meetings are being arranged to let you know what the implications mean, so belt up or do something constructive.

 

[Charlton]

sorry Andy didn't mean to bite your head off, sent you a PM

 

[anndy]

not to worry
i email angling miss trust, do not want to know,, i am only a single angler would be best to join them and let them speak for me ,i was told

 

[Charlton]

not to worry
i email angling miss trust, do not want to know,, i am only a single angler would be best to join them and let them speak for me ,i was told

could certainly be worthwhile joining a club or even the AT as a single m,eber, I know one lad who is trying to change things from the inside and maybe they change their ways and become more open. I have pointed out to the powers that be their main stumbling block will be the non fed/club angler as they are many. It might work out better if you stayed the way you are. Up to now nobody knows, until more information is forth coming which i hope will come at local meetings, to which all will be invited if I have my way.

 

[ryanlee]

bedlington station sea-angling club will attend any meetings.
please send details so representatives can attend.

 

[Charlton]

if you want to attend could you please e mail details, if you say yes on here, I am very busy and could miss what you post.

[email protected]

 

[davem2005]

Alan,

Who is the meeting going to be with and what are the aims of the meeting?

It would be nice to see some regional meetings for a change but our region is classified as the North Sea so dont be too upset to find they meet in Hull or somewhere similar.

As I understand it the next stage in creating MPA's is the formation of regional committee's with representatives from every stakeholder group. The pilot finding sanctuary scheme started with just one angling representative but this was increased to two when the number of meetings increased.

This committee (it has an official name I cant remember) will then discuss individual areas and make recommendations to Natural England.

Then starts the public consultation which last I heard will be in two years time. The finding sanctuary project is intended to take four years and the North sea version (Area 4) is not even under way yet.

It is hard for NE anglers to get representation at meetings and particularly since so many are held in London and whilst I attend as many as I can it gets very expensive with days off work and the travelling costs.

Hopefully things will improve a bit the the announcement that the new MMO which takes over from the MFA and will be in charge of IFCA's is to be based at Newcastle. Hopefully some of the meetings which in the past have been held at DEFRA's offices in London will be held further north.

Also the announcement that Stuart McPherson is to take over from RIchard Frerre also may bring a little more emphasis to NE concerns. I know Stuart has worked tirelessly for NE anglers over the years and hopefully will continue to do so now he has national interests to look after.

It is my understanding that although the meeting at Birmingham is by invite , there was a sentence which by my reading suggested that additional people could be nominated but no additional people were nominated unfortunately. I personally would have liked to have seen all RSA representatives on SFC's be invited because after all they are the ones who are potentially in a position to help change things.The NFSA and other bodies worked hard to get anglers represented on SFC's andyet seem to ignore them when it comes to keeping them informed with what is going on.

I would love to hear any suggestions as to how non club anglers, and to some extent the clubs get the best representation possible. I would love to see either the northern fed or AT form a conservation group who's aim is to fight for ne anglers rights or even a totally seperate body. The NFSA had a conservation group which met quarterly. This has now become the Angling Trust Marine Conservation Group. I will be attending these meetings but perhaps there is a place for a NE group to get together once every three months to discuss NE issues and then take these to the Conservation Group meeting as a regional issue. One obvious starting point for this would be for the NE Angling Trust to contact the members and invite them to form a NE AT Conservation Committee.

The NFSA Conservation Group was open to non members ....if you had an opinion you were welcome.

Cheers
Dave






Cheers
Dave

 

[Charlton]

the meetings are simply to inform NE anglers what MCZ's are all about. The NFSA, NEBF, and the NFSAS, used to get together whenever there was a problem that affected all bodies, but this has never happened for a long while. As for meetings I will try my best to get to the one in Birmingham, must admit it was quite a shock when I saw my name on the invited list. Agree all bodies should have been asked to attend so there was a good balance, not just members from one organisation. As for locations of meetings, if I attend the meeting in Birmingham it will be the last I will be travelling to. had enought travelling around over the years to last, in future if they want to speak to the NFSAS, they will have to come to us and when anglers can be available, I think a lot of anglers have spent a lot of their own money atending meetings, which to me are deliberately set as far away as possible and at the most awkward times, when most are at work.

 

[Red5]

Can I just add my ten pence worth......

Could reporters for Sea Angler or TSF not become more pro-active and be on either AT or SACN or NFSAS comittees. They are then in the job of reporting on issues that affect anglers so would be paid just as they would for doing a report on say Skate fishing at Oban?

There seems to be a lot of people out there who make a lot of money out of fishing in one way shape or form, can't we get them to take a role in highlighting our issues. I.e. Henry Gilbey, Paul Young, John Wilson, Robson Green (don't laugh).

I wrote to Hugh Fearnley a while back to get him to do a programme on highlighting the damage from the commercial sector, but he was too busy saving Chickens at Tescos!

 

[Charlton]

Can I just add my ten pence worth......

Could reporters for Sea Angler or TSF not become more pro-active and be on either AT or SACN or NFSAS comittees. They are then in the job of reporting on issues that affect anglers so would be paid just as they would for doing a report on say Skate fishing at Oban?

There seems to be a lot of people out there who make a lot of money out of fishing in one way shape or form, can't we get them to take a role in highlighting our issues. I.e. Henry Gilbey, Paul Young, John Wilson, Robson Green (don't laugh).

I wrote to Hugh Fearnley a while back to get him to do a programme on highlighting the damage from the commercial sector, but he was too busy saving Chickens at Tescos!

i write a few articles for TSF and alos a member of NFSAS committee, I sent all the info I had, including my interview with Audrey Jones to all the mags and weeklies, never even got a thankyou, and has any of it seen the light of day on a magazine page.

 

[Topfly]

Alan, When everybody puts their gear away for the last time, these people who have the wherewithall to make a difference, will wish they had used their position more wisely.

 

[Red5]

Like I say, some of these people are paid by companies to promote their gear, and ultimately I am sure when we buy a new rod or reel, a percentage of that money is what pays some of these guys wages. Great that they can be paid to do a show on Discovery or C5, to travel the world and show us what it's like to catch bronzies off the skeleton coast or Marlin off Mexico, but what about us who can't afford to do that and just want to catch a cod when we go out. We can't upsticks to the best fishing spots, when the fishing gets bad coz we aren't paid to do that as our jobs.

Word of caution for them though.....As it shows in 'The End of the Line', commercial vessels from the EU are now plundering waters off Africa and the Indian Ocean......It may take a little longer in future to film the presenter catching anything other than sunburn....But hey will they care if they are still being paid?

I honestly can't say from watching ANY of the anglers on Discovery or C5, make any mention of the decline in fish around our coasts and the world, and in not doing so are failing in their morale obligation to promote angling!

Keep plugging away Alan!