what i meant was the handles on the 525,s and i no of a few people,s 525,s have cracked or broken in half literally had no problems with the avets can,t fault them at the moment thats why i got another1. Edd i got the ones without the mags this time as they where cheaper and on my other avet with the mags in i can cast it with the lowest setting of mag brakes on mind i have got thicker oil in to control it [bling! bling! bling! what a tackle tart i am all the gear no idea could,nt catch a fish to save me life.