Im just after some advice a couple of friends and me are trying to decide to buy an arvor or a quicksilver we only really go about 10-12 miles out but might try the grave yard this year is there anyone with either boat or have owned that could help us decide which would be the better option
New boat but which one
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oldessox
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I don't have either , but I did a lot of research when looking for a new boat myself , I came very close to buying both the arvor 215 and the qs 640 , they are both the same boat apparently with different propulsion , the arvor being diesel inboard powered and the qs being petrol outboard powered.
The main difference will be speed , the qs will be quicker than the arvor.
Both nice fishing boats , either will do you proud for fishing around the north east coasts I should think.
Ray
The main difference will be speed , the qs will be quicker than the arvor.
Both nice fishing boats , either will do you proud for fishing around the north east coasts I should think.
Ray
thats the thing we car'nt decide either diesel or petrol with the price of fuel now and both boats are good i think if either one comes along for a good price we'll be happy anyone know of any local
The Jester
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2 Arvors for sale in Sunderland marina, you could ask at reception at the marina for details. Only thing i would say is try and get an Arvor with the Nanni engine, rather than the VW..
big_sean
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One of the biggest mistakes people make when trying to buy boats is not to travel as they will be a good bit cheaper on the south coast and you will generally get a lot more for your money
There are fewer boats up the north east so prices will be higher
have you thought about the jeanneau,s oceateau's and benneteau.s all good boats as well and all along the same lines
some will be outboard and some will be inboard
One of the biggest factors to consider will be speed as the ones with inboard that have the speedy engine in them will be like getting gold dust as they always sell very quick
so if its speed you want then i would say opt for the outboard
but if you fancy a plodder then there will be bargains in the inboard versions
Hope this helps a little
Sean
2 Arvors for sale in Sunderland marina, you could ask at reception at the marina for details. Only thing i would say is try and get an Arvor with the Nanni engine, rather than the VW..
I'll have a look i've been looking for the nanni ones i read the turbos are'nt very good on the vw's thanks for the info
we dont mind going any where to pick a boat up its just finding the right one and like you said there like gold dust the good ones we had a look at the other boats but decided on arvor or quicksilver
big_sean
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This one will fish 3/4 in comfort and will cruise at a good rate of knots and looks ok
Quicksilver Fishing Boat for sale , Quicksilver 580 PILOT HOUSE - Boats And Outboards
and should be economical on fuel and to get the same performance from an arvor i bet you will spend more than double and its at a price now that it shouldnt depreciate very much at all
Sean
Quicksilver Fishing Boat for sale , Quicksilver 580 PILOT HOUSE - Boats And Outboards
and should be economical on fuel and to get the same performance from an arvor i bet you will spend more than double and its at a price now that it shouldnt depreciate very much at all
Sean
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thats what were looking for price is alright like you say double that for a arvor which is too much for us
Kev1n
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Good advice given earlier about being prepared to travel to find the right boat and don’t rush into it. There’s much more on offer down south, that’s where mine came from although it has lost its cockney accent now.
I looked through all the websites I could find and drew up a (long) short list of boats. Looking for fishing boats instead of looking for an Arvor or QS helps. Then I went to see a few of them and although the Arvors had the better layout for fishing, the VW turbo problem was just coming to the fore so I ruled them out. That left the one I bought, an ocqueteau and a beneteau. Once you have your list and check the reviews it gets easier to decide which to look at.
Another bit of advice is to set a budget and expect to spend an extra third by the time you add transport, safety gear, marina fees, insurance, etc..
I looked through all the websites I could find and drew up a (long) short list of boats. Looking for fishing boats instead of looking for an Arvor or QS helps. Then I went to see a few of them and although the Arvors had the better layout for fishing, the VW turbo problem was just coming to the fore so I ruled them out. That left the one I bought, an ocqueteau and a beneteau. Once you have your list and check the reviews it gets easier to decide which to look at.
Another bit of advice is to set a budget and expect to spend an extra third by the time you add transport, safety gear, marina fees, insurance, etc..
The Jester
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Kev, which boat did you get, i travelled to Essex for mine there were no M/F 635'5 up here so like you say travelling pays...
Kev1n
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Chris, I traded up from a seahog to an Ocqueteau 645 late in 2009. Buying over the autumn and winter left plenty of time to find the right boat with the right engine at the right price. I’ve not regretted the choice. Now that I’ve bought one, every other boat seems to be an Ocqueteau, at least in the RQ marina.
How’s your new boat going?
How’s your new boat going?
The Jester
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Thanks for asking Kev, its going great now the pump etc is sorted 
, can't beat a boat with a cabin , i certainly would'nt go back to a cuddy. Nice boat the Ocqueteau 645, and very similar to the M/Fishers and Beneteaus.
, can't beat a boat with a cabin , i certainly would'nt go back to a cuddy. Nice boat the Ocqueteau 645, and very similar to the M/Fishers and Beneteaus.quick note on that post, the vw marine engine in the arvor 215, 250 etc are all the same, brilliant solid engines. Yes they have slight problems with their turbos only down to lack of use as they use a variable vane geometry turbo. Meaning they seize without regular use and maintenance. Very easy fix even if your not a marine engineer lol, however I know of a couple of people that have had theirs replaced or on warranty reclaim.
Anyhoo... I can comment on 215 as my father has one, brilliant little boat that ticks all boxes. Easy to use, move and fish on with the option to trawl aswell. Also with live bait well that can be used as a sink or whatever you want lol. Plenty room and space to keep gear. Cleans up a real treat and easy on the eye.
The only problem I know with these boats are the turbos and the wiper motor seizing. Both are easy fixes. (experienced both!!!!)
Ive been aboard the Q, nice little boat but just doesnt seem to have the fishing space of the arvor.
Best thing really is to research and to go on/use both boats. Lads in mariners etc are nice chaps, and Im sure a few words with them would give you great advice.
Speak to a lad called Dan at Essex Boat Yards aswell, he's always been really helpfull to us.
Good luck with boat hunting either way lol
The Jester
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I bought my boat off Dan from Essex Boatyards and will vouch for him, very nice guy. When he delivered mine last year he said he was struggling to sell the VW engined Arvors, so if you are brave enough you could get a good deal.
Kev1n
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The VW’s have more than a slight problem as a quick search through the forums will show. Even Arvor have recognised the problem with the VW engines and don’t fit them anymore. Suggesting that the problem is simply down to lack of use is simplifying things. They seize because unlike a car when the power applied changes very frequently which in turn varies the waste valve on the turbo. In a boat the engine is usually run at a more constant speed and there is little movement in the turbo valve, leading to it seizing, often after about 60hours.
yes very true. Its not the biggest problem in the world mind, its happened to ours and fixed it within a few minutes and never been so good lol. Still, would rather have not been in that situation to need to do so.
post was really to comment on boat, cracking boat, yet could encounter problems as said.
post was really to comment on boat, cracking boat, yet could encounter problems as said.
