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Scotty
There was fish showing and a few reports hoyed up before last weeks northerly.
The water is flattened now and is still dropping off.

With the few days of settled weather forecast its looking good to get out.
The tides are perfect

All of the boxes are ticked except for one, the fish box!, so lets see what this weekend brings, it can,t be as bad as last week........

Best of luck

Paul
 
That's true Paul you can any get out ther and give it a bash aye gess am nt asst if no fish as long am on the water ;D
 
By the way Paul, for this ignoramus, what is a perfect tide? Maybe I should take note before booking charters!
 
kayos said:
By the way Paul, for this ignoramus, what is a perfect tide? Maybe I should take note before booking charters!
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You should, M8 !!

Here in the North East the tides vary a lot.

If you book on a charter, when the tides are very strong (around full and new moon), the drift will be very fast.


At a very strong tide, the drift can be well over 2 kn (2kn = 2 nm/hour =3.7km/h or roughly 1m/s

If you drift over a wreck fast, you

A: get less fishing time
B: unnatural bait presentation
c: more snags and lost tackle

You also need much bigger weights and pirks

On the other hand, a very mild tide (around half moon) can give you little to none drift around slack water, which can also be bad

rule of thumb: avoid the times around full and new moon

Problem: the good charters are usually well booked out when the tides are great and when you spot availabilities on weekends, its usually a sh..e tide
 
Strong and mild? Is that like big and small tides? The tide site I look at ie BBC doesn't mention strong and mild?
 
kayos said:
Strong and mild? Is that like big and small tides? The tide site I look at ie BBC doesn't mention strong and mild?
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MARK !! I thought you know the sea !!

Look at magicseaweed and see the differences between high and low tide.

Sometimes its more than 5m and sometimes as little as 2.

The tidal differences behave like a sinus wave. Around slack high and slack low, you have very little flow and mid tide its the most.

As a consequence, the boat might drift during one 10hr fishing trip first 3 m/s to the north, then approaching slack low and almost standing, only to start drifting southwards.

To make matters more complicated, the tides also depend on the line-up of sun-moon and earth. That is why you get stronger and weaker tides throughout the year and not only undulating within the lunar month.

Have a look at Shy Torques webpage. He indicates, when a tide is good or bad.

Another aspect is the depth of the water. The deeper the water is, the less does the tidal flow influence the fishing. That is why some skippers go well offshore at the big tides and catch very well.
 
Kartonkel said:
MARK !! I thought you know the sea !!

Look at magicseaweed and see the differences between high and low tide.

Sometimes its more than 5m and sometimes as little as 2.

The tidal differences behave like a sinus wave. Around slack high and slack low, you have very little flow and mid tide its the most.

As a consequence, the boat might drift during one 10hr fishing trip first 3 m/s to the north, then approaching slack low and almost standing, only to start drifting southwards.

To make matters more complicated, the tides also depend on the line-up of sun-moon and earth. That is why you get stronger and weaker tides throughout the year and not only undulating within the lunar month.

Have a look at Shy Torques webpage. He indicates, when a tide is good or bad.

Another aspect is the depth of the water. The deeper the water is, the less does the tidal flow influence the fishing. That is why some skippers go well offshore at the big tides and catch very well.
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Norbert whatever gave you the idea I know the sea!? :D Sounds way, way to complicated for me. :red:

I did just look it up now on Shy Torque website and by sheer good fortune 3 of our 4 Whitby trips in July are on an "excellent tide" and one on a "good tide!"

Happy days. :)
 
I should of been and planned to be but got stuck building a wall, still got 4 days planned at it this week if the weather holds...mackerel weekend this one i think :)
 
If the weather holds Alan will find you the fish, it just feels we need 2 weeks of settled weather and this could just could be a cracking year after the poorest start in my fishing lifetime.

We had fish from most marks Last Wedensday in good numbers before that sea came away and more important every mark was showing fish...that NE sea really knocked it for six but with a week of settled sea's i do feel this weekend will see the first of the mackerel in real numbers and a few reports of good hauls.

For me i will be keeping a couple of cod and the rest will be going back to grow bigger and spawn. I love ling fishing some days but hate it when they blow the swim bladder and that often stops me fishing for them when large numbers of smaller fish around.

I am sure this time Sunday we will have a catch report section stuffed with reports and pic's of the weekend :)

GOOD LUCK ALL.
 

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