port carlisle 2/6/12

micky-quayle

Well-known member
decided to head over to port carlisle this morning, set off from home just after 6am to arrive around 8am. i planned to fish the bend in the road but when i arrived it was packed, there was a competition on, so rather than fish there i decided to try the island, got on the island just as the water started to flood. very windy today so fished over the wall into what used to be the harbour (all silted up now, but with a channel that runs round the island) this meant the wind would be on my back and make for more comfortable fishing, there was a good chop on the water on the other side of the island.
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much more sheltered where i chose though.
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fish from the off, all good quality fish ended up with 16 plump flounders best 42cm smallest 36cm, had 6 fish over 40cm no small ones at all, it was interesting that every single fish fell to the bottom hook, nothing at all on the top. all fish on crab and macky.
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the only downside of fishing the island is having to wait nearly 3 hours into the ebb to get off, all the fish came on the flood and first hour of the ebb, so did a bit crabbing til i could get off, not many crab but got a few small ones.
 
Micky that was me you were talking to this morning on the bend...very poor today I had 5..Gareth Gardner won with 23 I think..weather was shocking

Micky
 
Good fishing Micky how long did you have to wait to get back off the island ?

got off the island about 1-45 so about 3 hours after the top of the water. you're only fishing about 10 yds out into the channel when you fish off the wall, riving bites they were, however a lot of the fish were only lip hooked where normally 90% of them woof it right down, nice to be able to return as many with a degree of certainty they'll survive. really enjoyed it just the wind was a bit of a pain but at least it stayed dry.
 
welldone on your fish but just cut the hook off from the snood rather than trying to get it and hopefully it will rot i,ve caught quite a few flounders with the hook still in thier mouths greedy buggers if it bleeds by trying to take the hook out bacteria might kill the fish which is not worth it for the price of a hook
 
welldone on your fish but just cut the hook off from the snood rather than trying to get it and hopefully it will rot i,ve caught quite a few flounders with the hook still in thier mouths greedy buggers if it bleeds by trying to take the hook out bacteria might kill the fish which is not worth it for the price of a hook

the jurys still out on this one. the majority of anglers now believe its best to cut the hook off and it will rot quickly, i'm afraid thats not the case, hooks rot (through rusting) very slowly when completely submerged in water (they rot much much quicker when both water and air can get at them, but this is not the case with returned fish as they are completely submerged.) cut the hook off and sure the fish will swim away strongly but a very high percentage of these returned fish will die a slow lingering death due to their throat been stitched and thus unable to feed. i always if possible remove hooks, just my personal view nothing to do with the cost of a few hooks, i believe i'm doing the best thing but its a difficult one, we all want to do whats best for the fish and its good discussions like this take place as it shows we care.
 
well said i think they still feed as i said i,ve had plenty of fish with other hooks in thier mouths i also debarb mine aswell ,you see lots of anglers with the forceps or pliers out doing a bit of heavy dental work then throw the fish back bleeding surely to die seen loads up the aln belly up lying on the mud banks
 
the jurys still out on this one. the majority of anglers now believe its best to cut the hook off and it will rot quickly, i'm afraid thats not the case, hooks rot (through rusting) very slowly when completely submerged in water (they rot much much quicker when both water and air can get at them, but this is not the case with returned fish as they are completely submerged.) cut the hook off and sure the fish will swim away strongly but a very high percentage of these returned fish will die a slow lingering death due to their throat been stitched and thus unable to feed. i always if possible remove hooks, just my personal view nothing to do with the cost of a few hooks, i believe i'm doing the best thing but its a difficult one, we all want to do whats best for the fish and its good discussions like this take place as it shows we care.
You are spot on Mick, I have personally tested this by putting hooks into small jam jars filled with sea water then putting lids back on. After SIX WEEKS there was very little change in the hooks condition leading me to believe that snipping a hook off will result in the fish dying in most cases, I always remove a hook as carefully as I can although sometimes some damage does occor but even then I still feel the fish has a better chance of survival than swimming around with a hook in its throat/stomach.
 
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