Rig Building

[davem2005]

I have always being a bit lax about what kind of rig I use when bait fishing on the boat...just kinda cobbling something together when I need it with a few knots and chucking in a swivel where it seems appropriate. The exception to this is my shark and tope traces which get every care and attention as the cost for one shark trace alone is in excess of 30 quid just for the bits.

With winter coming along I decided to get a bit more scientific about it and bought an assorted pack of rigs off ebay. The plan is to use them as templates for making my own.

Anyone know any good places to get rig bits in bulk as it bugs me buying small packs at ridiculous prices.

I do have an opportunity to visit a tackle trade wharehouse but that is really bulk stuff ie daylights in packs of 100's. So if anyone needs any bulk supplies it may be an idea for us to put together a shopping list to make the trip worthwhile.

Cheers
Dave

 

[KeithB]

Fishing tackle on-line shop for lures, pike lures, carp lures plus swivels, traces, hooks, rods, reels, rigs, traces and floats.

very good for swivels and O'shaugnessey hooks.

If you don't see what you need email him, his website doesn't show all his stock, for example he does 4/0 swivels with a coast lock which are great for clipping rigs to your mainline.

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

I can now tie a mean multi hook trace without the need for swivels etc...

My next task is to learn how to whip on feathers

I've quickly learnt that the best rigs are often the simplest...if a trace is over designed then it's only more expense to leave on the wreck

A three way swivel with a loop on the top and bottom eye and the hook snood coming off the middle makes for the simplest flowing trace you can get (courtesy of Steve that one LOL )

 

[northeast1]

I use UK HOOKS and have done for many years, they seem very good on price and sell alto of odds and sods. You can view their web site or ask for a slaes book.

I still try and use my local tackle shop for as much as i can but sometimes they cant come close to the prices online because of thier overheads.

 

[mark]

whipping feathers on is a doddle (once you know how) tend to make all daylites in the winter with the left over ribbon at chrimbo... see if I can draw a picture or something!

 

[KeithB]

You need one of these Tony

Designed and manufactured by Bert Enterprises

 

[mark]

You need one of these Tony

Designed and manufactured by Bert Enterprises

If bert ever wants to make another and flog it.....

looks easier than my traditional way, works best if you can fix the bend on the hook in a small vice (fly tying vice is perfect)

bend your ribbon/feather over the hook shank, loop of line onto of ribbon, so your gripping the hook shank, ribbon and loop of line in one hand, take one end of the loop (B) and wind around the line back towards the loop, after a few turns stick the end you've been winding through the loop, then pull the other end (A) firmly, whcih tightens the winding and pulls the other end into the coils and holds it fast, probably makes nee sense to no-one, but works for me.....

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

excellent pictures them....not sure what Keiths trying flog me like LOL

 

[KeithB]

lol it aint for sale mate!

 

[davem2005]

excellent pictures them....not sure what Keiths trying flog me like LOL

Got a far more versatile hook holder...smile nicely at the mrs and say " ere hold this a minute luv"

I cant see the point in making daylights. I probably only go through 10 sets a season and they cost peanuts. When wrecking it tends to be a case of tying a lead on the end and the hook tied to a dropper...no swivel or link.

I do want to make some more technical stuff for uptiding and fishing at anchor over the winter.

Thanks for the links.

Cheers
dave

 

[Oblickta]

I like downtide fishing with a flowing trace that slides through a 12 inch plastic pipe boom with the weight attached via a weak link. The boom reduces tangles on the way down and sometimes I'll tie in a loop above the weight and attach another hook that is fished just off the bottem.

For wrecking I like to make my own gear with 80lb mono and just tie in loops above the weight/pirk as required, then attach whatever is fishing on the day! I once ran out of gear after loosing loads and fished with a single 6 inch blue shad on a dropper and outfished the rest of the boat 'till I lost it.

I do buy ready made gear but find it hard to find stuff in bigger hook sizes.

 

[jeff]

Alright Dave,


For Boat Casting we put a zip slider, (the red ones) on the mainline, (leader) with a bead either side and tie it off to a 80lb swivel. We usually keep a number of traces ready to clip onto the swivel in our wallets so you are not out of the water too long baiting up. These rigs are a simple 4 to 6ft of 20lb to 40lb Amnesia with a pennel type hooking arrangement. We use a crab hook as the top hook, (any wide gape will do) and a 4/0 or 6/0 Viking. Sometimes we use a few beads above the top hook.

I've tried using fancy multi hook droppers and wishbone type rigs when casting from the boat but no matter how well it's tied etc.... you'll just end up tangled. Just like Toping..........use the k.i.s.s. principle.

Weight wise we use Gemini Uptide weights and switch to ball weights when the tide slackens. The most lead I've ever had to use off this coast is 6oz. You can probably get away with 4oz most of the time.

Also, when casting with a grip lead, hook the bottom hook over one of the wires for safety. It will break loose when it hits the water.

Surprisingly, no matter how rough the ground you're fishing over is, it's rare you will loose gear unless the boat is swinging all over on the anchor.

Hope this is helpful.

Cheers,
Jeff.

Hope this helps.

 

[davem2005]

Jeff,
Sounds very similar to what I make up as required.

I will wait and see whats in this boat fishing assortment and then a run down to this warehouse will be in order.

You have reminded me that I am totally out of those red sliders, although I have had problems with them coming open when using BIG 1kg leads. The snap link is just not strong enough.

Cheers
Dave

 

[Oblickta]

Dave dont buy any red sliders, I got 200 for £2.50 (good quality) of a freaky no reserve ebay auction (they were listed under motor bikes) and I'll bring you a bag full next time I see u