Second lure Bass
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This one was on an Angels Kiss mate. They are dead good for checking out new spots and for fishing really low tides as the swim so shallow.
My best advice I can give you is:
Fish rocky ground, shallow is ok as long as you are careful and choose the right lure that wont dive too deep.
Kelp is good for holding fish but even better for snagging you hard, again use the lure that will keep you above the snags.
Use braid, it's expensive, and can be tricky to get used to, but it's definately worth it. You feel everything, fish and snags. Almost more important is to feel the snags as you can stop reeling straight away before you pull yourself in too deep. When you feel the snag stop and the lure should float above it, if you are stuck get your rod tip high and have a few tugs, if it's not coming leave it a minute or so with a little slack and it may float free.
Use 2-3 foot mono leader on your braid tied with an albright not. This isn't for casting but acts as a rubbing leader so your braid doesn't frey on rocks or get damaged by the trebles. I'm just using 30lb clear mono at the minute, but fluro is supposed to be better.
Work around objects and structures, look for features that you can safely retrieve past, these areas will hold fish.
Fish rocks rather than beaches.
Have patience, I put in probably 30 hours plus before I got a fish, but now have had four sessions with three fish. 2 bass and a decent Pollock. But when you do catch or even just have a tug make note of what you are doing and what the conditions are. Same with bait fishing for them, they tend to be in the same place at the same time and tide when the conditions are that way. Not so much from the lures, but from bait fishing this summer they can be really predictable.
Don't be afraid of a little surf, but if it's getting rough switch to bait.
You need clearish water, the fish needs to be able to see the lure if it's going to take it.
Anhything else just ask, I'm by no means an expert, definately still a novice at this but I've picked up quite a bit of knowledge the hard way. Swam in the North Sea last week to get a £20 lure back, ha.
My best advice I can give you is:
Fish rocky ground, shallow is ok as long as you are careful and choose the right lure that wont dive too deep.
Kelp is good for holding fish but even better for snagging you hard, again use the lure that will keep you above the snags.
Use braid, it's expensive, and can be tricky to get used to, but it's definately worth it. You feel everything, fish and snags. Almost more important is to feel the snags as you can stop reeling straight away before you pull yourself in too deep. When you feel the snag stop and the lure should float above it, if you are stuck get your rod tip high and have a few tugs, if it's not coming leave it a minute or so with a little slack and it may float free.
Use 2-3 foot mono leader on your braid tied with an albright not. This isn't for casting but acts as a rubbing leader so your braid doesn't frey on rocks or get damaged by the trebles. I'm just using 30lb clear mono at the minute, but fluro is supposed to be better.
Work around objects and structures, look for features that you can safely retrieve past, these areas will hold fish.
Fish rocks rather than beaches.
Have patience, I put in probably 30 hours plus before I got a fish, but now have had four sessions with three fish. 2 bass and a decent Pollock. But when you do catch or even just have a tug make note of what you are doing and what the conditions are. Same with bait fishing for them, they tend to be in the same place at the same time and tide when the conditions are that way. Not so much from the lures, but from bait fishing this summer they can be really predictable.
Don't be afraid of a little surf, but if it's getting rough switch to bait.
You need clearish water, the fish needs to be able to see the lure if it's going to take it.
Anhything else just ask, I'm by no means an expert, definately still a novice at this but I've picked up quite a bit of knowledge the hard way. Swam in the North Sea last week to get a £20 lure back, ha.
peter.m
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Well done on the catch.
Like you I'm no expert but started using braid a couple of years ago to bounce jellyworms off the bottom on leadheads for pollock. Use a 3ft 20lb fluro leader with grinner to grinner. If it snags the leader goes at the knot. Like you say you can feel the snags coming and usually bump them out of the way. Bought a mould for the leadheads which makes it less costly on the losses.
Started using the braid for flattie fishing this summer and really notice the difference in bites.
Like you I'm no expert but started using braid a couple of years ago to bounce jellyworms off the bottom on leadheads for pollock. Use a 3ft 20lb fluro leader with grinner to grinner. If it snags the leader goes at the knot. Like you say you can feel the snags coming and usually bump them out of the way. Bought a mould for the leadheads which makes it less costly on the losses.
Started using the braid for flattie fishing this summer and really notice the difference in bites.
The Great Wallsendo
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Nice One again Mate 
I would like to try that actually, I haven't bait fished with it yet, although would probably shy away from rough ground with it as it's not great with abrasion. Going to stick to using mono on me multiplyer for winter fishing. In the swells your rod would be nodding all over the place on braid.
jarrowviking
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Cracking fish Broony, can you recommend a rod and reel for this type of fishing and also could you let me know where I can get a hold of one of those lures you were using. Looks like an exciting way to fish and I really fancy giving it a go. Thanks for the post.
For my rod I'm using a shakespear salt flattie that cost £25 quid. It's far from ideal to be honest, the action is far too sloppy. If you just fancy giving it a try any pike lure rod, or sea spinning outfit should do. Don't go for a 'Bass' rod as these are usually about 2-4 oz casting weight that is too heavy. Aim for something that casts 10 - 50grams. Carp rods are too floppy, you need to be able to twitch and jerk the lure so you need a stiffer more responsive rod.
You can get a Savage Gear Bushwacker (Pike Rod) for about 50-60 quid, 8 and a half foot. It's supposed top be a cracking rod for the price.
But proper lure rods for sea bass are mostly japenese and go from about £120 quid up to £400 for a Tenryu.
A decent metal spooled fixed spool reel of 3000 or 4000 size should do you. You want your rod and reel to be nice and light as your going to be casting over and over again. I've got a shimano syncopate which was part of a course setup I bought from aldi last summer for £20. I don't think you can buy them in this country by themselves. It's only cheap but it does it's job. I would spend at least £50 on the reel though to make sure its decent quality. I plan to upgrade both me rod and reel for next summer, can't aford it with a new baby coming in October.
Lures are the bit I've spent the most money on. Many are better at catching the angler then catching fish. Nowehere in the North East seems to have decent stock of good quality lures, just the odd few that are usually cheaper imitations of the proper stuff. I order mine online either here:
https://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Artificials.html
or here:
Tenryu Rods Duo Tide Lures Mr Fish Jersey
But you can find stuff on ebay etc.
They are pricey so make sure you buy suitable ones for where you intend to fish. Don't buy something that dives 4 feet if you plan on fishing a reef that is 3 foot deep and full of boulders. Few I would recommend
Angels Kiss (Veals)
Maria chase BW and SW(Veals)
Duo Tide Minnow (MrFish)
Tackle House Feed Shallow (MrFish)
Mix up you colours, darker lures are supposed to work better in darker conditions, brighter work better in bright conditions.
Of course though, Bass will take you normal quid or two spinners. So it doesn't have to cost much at all. The advantage of lures though is they float and hold position in the water, allowing you to vary the speed and put life into them over shallow ground where a normal spinner would sink and snag.
Again I sound like I know something, but I'm a total novice, have a read around, the Whitby Sea Anglers website has a lot of good info that has been really helpful:
BASS FISHING METHODS / 5 ways to catch a bass
BASS FISHING 101 | Hints Tips And Bass Facts
One thing i would say, a Bass is a very slow grower. The recommended size is 41cms, but even that is a bit low. At that size they may be 7 years old but might have only spawned once or not at all. I don't think they are abundant up here so my choice is to fish catch and release. Others can obviously make their own decisions.
You can get a Savage Gear Bushwacker (Pike Rod) for about 50-60 quid, 8 and a half foot. It's supposed top be a cracking rod for the price.
But proper lure rods for sea bass are mostly japenese and go from about £120 quid up to £400 for a Tenryu.
A decent metal spooled fixed spool reel of 3000 or 4000 size should do you. You want your rod and reel to be nice and light as your going to be casting over and over again. I've got a shimano syncopate which was part of a course setup I bought from aldi last summer for £20. I don't think you can buy them in this country by themselves. It's only cheap but it does it's job. I would spend at least £50 on the reel though to make sure its decent quality. I plan to upgrade both me rod and reel for next summer, can't aford it with a new baby coming in October.
Lures are the bit I've spent the most money on. Many are better at catching the angler then catching fish. Nowehere in the North East seems to have decent stock of good quality lures, just the odd few that are usually cheaper imitations of the proper stuff. I order mine online either here:
https://www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Artificials.html
or here:
Tenryu Rods Duo Tide Lures Mr Fish Jersey
But you can find stuff on ebay etc.
They are pricey so make sure you buy suitable ones for where you intend to fish. Don't buy something that dives 4 feet if you plan on fishing a reef that is 3 foot deep and full of boulders. Few I would recommend
Angels Kiss (Veals)
Maria chase BW and SW(Veals)
Duo Tide Minnow (MrFish)
Tackle House Feed Shallow (MrFish)
Mix up you colours, darker lures are supposed to work better in darker conditions, brighter work better in bright conditions.
Of course though, Bass will take you normal quid or two spinners. So it doesn't have to cost much at all. The advantage of lures though is they float and hold position in the water, allowing you to vary the speed and put life into them over shallow ground where a normal spinner would sink and snag.
Again I sound like I know something, but I'm a total novice, have a read around, the Whitby Sea Anglers website has a lot of good info that has been really helpful:
BASS FISHING METHODS / 5 ways to catch a bass
BASS FISHING 101 | Hints Tips And Bass Facts
One thing i would say, a Bass is a very slow grower. The recommended size is 41cms, but even that is a bit low. At that size they may be 7 years old but might have only spawned once or not at all. I don't think they are abundant up here so my choice is to fish catch and release. Others can obviously make their own decisions.
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seanyrooroo
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Dave, Bushwacker 15 - 45g.
Link here Cheshire Fishing - Pike Rods
Veals do maria lures, here www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Sub_Surface.html
Most people opt for a 4000 sized spinning reel loaded with braid and a 3ft leader
Link here Cheshire Fishing - Pike Rods
Veals do maria lures, here www.veals.co.uk/acatalog/Sub_Surface.html
Most people opt for a 4000 sized spinning reel loaded with braid and a 3ft leader
seanyrooroo
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Forgot to say well done Broony, looks like Paul and Andy have put you on the spot
I must say I've had some very sound advice from anglers up in the North East and elsewhere. I've put a canny few hours in but reading around and talking to people has helped massively.
Before anyone gets there hopes up I have blanked far far more than I have caught this summer. (This is only the second Bass I've caught on a lure all summer in 40 hours plus fishing) I've had much better success fishing with bait than I have with lures but the experience of actually catching on a lure is the best thing I've had in fishing so far.
Before anyone gets there hopes up I have blanked far far more than I have caught this summer. (This is only the second Bass I've caught on a lure all summer in 40 hours plus fishing) I've had much better success fishing with bait than I have with lures but the experience of actually catching on a lure is the best thing I've had in fishing so far.
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Richie_fishy
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Another success m8
The Great Wallsendo
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on the lure beats anything but freelining live sandeel in my book, nothing to stop thier antics and you feel even small ones, nice catch
caught Bass in Wales on free lined sandeel...like you say it's a great feeling
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