Shark trip Friday

[davem2005]

Jim's post about sums it up.

We tried but failed, but the plan is to try again as I am sure they will be around for the next six weeks or so.

The guy who goes out with Rich Ward to the wall prefers to book the whole boat to himself which is why there is a lack of pictures. He tells me he has had four this season.

Its interesting that in what is recognised as the Porbeagle mecca, i.e Scrabster in Scotland, the method used to catch them is to drift and jig exactly as we do here in the NE. When a cod gets bitten off they drop a shark rod over baited with a live cod. Very similar to what the skipper of the famous did. The big difference is the shark rod is properly set up and maintained as opposed to "sticking a bit of wire on a spare rod" that probably last saw a service during the miners strike and has a clutch welded together with salt. In its hay day Scrabster would produce up to 6 fish per day and still holds the world record at over 500 lb.

There is no reason why someone with a decent lever drag reel that is full with braid should not stand a chance of landing a porgie. The main thing is the trace needs to me up to the job and able to withstand the biting pressure and also a very long (20') rubbing leader of 200lb nylon to prevent the sharks skin rubbing through the line.

The prorbeagles first appear off Cornwall in the spring where in the past there was a commercial fishery for them and they are next seen in early November up in Scrabster...this raises the question where are they in between. In the past we have had up to seven runs during a day and landed 2 porgies and a tope between two boats fishing out at "The Wall" not a bad days fishing considering we also had cod and ling to 20lb as a bycatch whilst trying to catch tope.

I dont think for one minute that what are been seen at Hartlepool and Blyth are solitary fish its just that humans rarely come into contact with them.

If anyone fancies a trip out to the wall I would be happy to make up the numbers and bring all the gear along, and lets not forget that particular mark is where the record cod came from Maybe Alan would like to PM me a price for the trip and supply the pig apples, although I am told that pigs blood is far more usefull.

Cheers
Dave

 

[TheBigMan]

You've obviously being doing your research Dave. The first porgie landed at Scrabster came on normal cod rod and line, 20lb class, with a wire ray trace that I pinched off my mate!

I suspect that the Cormish and Welsh sharks are a different population from those we see up north as we dont get the wee ones. I think ours are the same group as are taken off the Faroes and Norway. Hopefully the tagging will show up some results soon.

 

[northeast1]

I always have a wire trace on board with 12/0 hooks, its a tope trace so i could nto see it holding long with 50lb braid and no rub line but if i ever do see a shark when i am out i will grab a cod or ling out the fish hold and try it, even a hook up before it snapped me would be fantastic.

Only seen a shark once at sea in last 3 years and that was a swim by when at drift that asted about 8 seconds lol

 

[billyturbot]

Jim's post about sums it up.

We tried but failed, but the plan is to try again as I am sure they will be around for the next six weeks or so.

The guy who goes out with Rich Ward to the wall prefers to book the whole boat to himself which is why there is a lack of pictures. He tells me he has had four this season.

Its interesting that in what is recognised as the Porbeagle mecca, i.e Scrabster in Scotland, the method used to catch them is to drift and jig exactly as we do here in the NE. When a cod gets bitten off they drop a shark rod over baited with a live cod. Very similar to what the skipper of the famous did. The big difference is the shark rod is properly set up and maintained as opposed to "sticking a bit of wire on a spare rod" that probably last saw a service during the miners strike and has a clutch welded together with salt. In its hay day Scrabster would produce up to 6 fish per day and still holds the world record at over 500 lb.

There is no reason why someone with a decent lever drag reel that is full with braid should not stand a chance of landing a porgie. The main thing is the trace needs to me up to the job and able to withstand the biting pressure and also a very long (20') rubbing leader of 200lb nylon to prevent the sharks skin rubbing through the line.

The prorbeagles first appear off Cornwall in the spring where in the past there was a commercial fishery for them and they are next seen in early November up in Scrabster...this raises the question where are they in between. In the past we have had up to seven runs during a day and landed 2 porgies and a tope between two boats fishing out at "The Wall" not a bad days fishing considering we also had cod and ling to 20lb as a bycatch whilst trying to catch tope.

I dont think for one minute that what are been seen at Hartlepool and Blyth are solitary fish its just that humans rarely come into contact with them.

If anyone fancies a trip out to the wall I would be happy to make up the numbers and bring all the gear along, and lets not forget that particular mark is where the record cod came from Maybe Alan would like to PM me a price for the trip and supply the pig apples, although I am told that pigs blood is far more usefull.

Cheers
Dave

thought i better fill you in the old wire trace was in fact a brand new one ,your right you do need a rubbing line which dave did not as it was spur of the moment and all happend so quick,about reels dave has the best of gear inc his boat probly the best charter boat on the north east coast ,as many of you that have fished with dave can say,he is also very good at his job as skipper having many years under belt ,he is also a very good angler,its nice to be on such a boat knowing that you are safe,wonder if flamer 11 has sorted all his problems out after he ran into the rocks also his turbo in my eyes you only get wot you pay for

 

[davem2005]

Billyturbot,
I was not having a pop at Dave just a general comment on some of the gear I have seen as spare rods kept on board by skippers.

When I first looked into shark fishing about 6 years ago I realised it needs special rigs but not necessarily special taxtics.

The rubbing leader is critical as sharkskin is like sandpaper and a 20 ft length is recommended for porgies as they have a habit of twisting up the line and will break 50lb mono in an instant. Just add it via a swivel to the bought trace and you are ready for anyting ok you have to handline the last 30 ft as the swivel wont go through the rings. I think they call it getting close to nature...I call it sheer stupidity!

Spotty dog at stockton sell some rigs for sharks. Add a 200lb rated swivel and a length of 200lb + mono and your all set with a good chance of landing a fish, or at least getting alongside for releasing via cutting the wire.

Where possible use a hook that will rust away ( not stainless or nickelled) that way the shark will easily rid itself of the trace , although shark anglers in the USA are split on which is best for the fishes survival chances Stainless steel or non stainless. There are good arguements for both types of hooks.

Two more sharks spotted of whitby on Sunday...so they are out there.

Cheers
dave

 

[Ryedale-fisher]

Hi, I'm the chap who has caught the sharks from Whitby this summer. As Dave has already said, I take the boat myself, but there are cameras on board and plenty of pictures / videos have been taken. If anyone wants to view them, they can be looked at here;

WHITBY PORBEAGLE SHARK FISHING - Rupert Gets A Big One On Shy Torque

and my second trip here,

PORBEAGLE SHARK FISHING AT WHITBY - 3 sharks and one missed big halibut

Interested to hear if any of you guys connect with a porgie further North.

Tight lines, Rupert.

 

[Oblickta]

 

[billyturbot]

cracking fish ware was that from, is that ian burret in the middle

 

[Oblickta]

It was caught from Sea Spray about 25 miles off Whitby

aye it's Ian, davem and the lad on the left is Richard from Spotty Dog Tackle

 

[smoggie]

It was caught from Sea Spray about 25 miles off Whitby

aye it's Ian, davem and the lad on the left is Richard from Spotty Dog Tackle

Skippered and found by Mal Pitman ,sea spray, who went out on a limb and took the cod goggles off.

Great pic I saw this when it first got caught was a relevation but there was a recording/video cant find it anywhere! skipper would love to see it again if you know where to find it thanks

 

[Oblickta]

You have a PM mate, in fact you have two cos accidently sent it twice lol