went along blyth pier this morning and this small sail boat came up river on his way out to sea well his engine must of packed in and he ended up getting washed up against cambios pier his keel bottomed out and he nearly was nearly tipped over twice by the swell,s running along the pier anyway after a good bashing off the pier he got his engine started but instead of coming in to get his problem sorted he set out to sea well am no sailer but i thought that was stupid and guess what happened he got about a mile out and his engine must of gone off again and the coast guard brought him back in . , why did,nt this fella turn around in the safety of the river ,?? jamcod,
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jamiebrennan
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Do the coastguard charge for towing incompetent oafs like this back to shore? The RNLI/Coastguard have enough to deal with without having to be the AA of the seas! Accidents do happen but if the culprit is found to have ignored basic seamanship( if that is the right term) then they should be charged and made to pay the costs.
mark
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It is possible the safest place to turn around might well of been in open water rather than in a enclosed waterway.
If there's a 10foot swell and the depth is say 15ft, at times you'll be in 5ft of water or less... with a keel underneath you its gonna hit something!, plus if there's any white water involved you'll be a lot less bouyant so draw more water and have less steerage
Not saying thats the case, just a possibility. had a similar one myself a couple of years back, main engine failed on the way out and with only a little seagull as backup the safest thing for me to do, knowing ground underwater pretty well was to go out turn around and come back, rather than try turn in shallow water without enough power to dodge the splashy bits
If there's a 10foot swell and the depth is say 15ft, at times you'll be in 5ft of water or less... with a keel underneath you its gonna hit something!, plus if there's any white water involved you'll be a lot less bouyant so draw more water and have less steerage
Not saying thats the case, just a possibility. had a similar one myself a couple of years back, main engine failed on the way out and with only a little seagull as backup the safest thing for me to do, knowing ground underwater pretty well was to go out turn around and come back, rather than try turn in shallow water without enough power to dodge the splashy bits
davem2005
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It was probably the rnli that went out not the coastguard. We are fortunate to have such a service here in the uk. In many countries throughout the world the only rescue service or reply you will get is to a Loydds open forum offer of assistance...basicaly they tow you in and they own your boat..you then hope your insurers payout to get it back for you. Hence the name.
As I understand it the rnli do not charge under any circumstances but exist entirely from voluntary contributions ...which they seem to do ok on financially.
The mind boggles why anyone with an engine failure exiting port would continue out to sea unless they were 100% sure they had effected a repair which was probably the case in the first instance. Its just thankfull that we have such an excellent service as the rnli and for that matter all the other inshore boat owners who will readily respond to any call for assistance on ch16 and not expect any kind of renumeration.In 15 years I have only been in a position to respond once to a coastgaurd mayday in search of two kids in a dinghy washed out to sea off whitby ( they had gone for an ice cream and mum paniced). Fortunately it turned out to be a false alarm and we lost 15 mins fishing...I only hope in the event that we get into difficulties that someone would be prepared to do the same for us.
Cheers
Dave
As I understand it the rnli do not charge under any circumstances but exist entirely from voluntary contributions ...which they seem to do ok on financially.
The mind boggles why anyone with an engine failure exiting port would continue out to sea unless they were 100% sure they had effected a repair which was probably the case in the first instance. Its just thankfull that we have such an excellent service as the rnli and for that matter all the other inshore boat owners who will readily respond to any call for assistance on ch16 and not expect any kind of renumeration.In 15 years I have only been in a position to respond once to a coastgaurd mayday in search of two kids in a dinghy washed out to sea off whitby ( they had gone for an ice cream and mum paniced). Fortunately it turned out to be a false alarm and we lost 15 mins fishing...I only hope in the event that we get into difficulties that someone would be prepared to do the same for us.
Cheers
Dave
i spoke to the coastguard that was on the shore waiting for them coming in and he told me a mayday was sent by the boat when he was being washed up against the pier still beats me why he did,nt come straight in as he was in the middle of the river when he went out to sea anyway he got in safe in the end , jamcod
Red5
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Would be the RNLI who towed him back and the Coastguard would be onshore co-ordinating the rescue for the MRCC down in Humber.
We were called out last year to a guy who broke down in thick fog off Alnmouth. His prop had sheared off. Visibility was down to mebbes 50m and Ourselves (Boulmer CRT) and Amble CRT performed communications from Alnmouth bay with both the Offshore lifeboat and ILB.
When he was towed back to Amble harbour, this guy had none of the basic lifesaving equipment on board. No VHF, EPIRB, flares, life jackets, first aid kit. Nothing. He'd made the mayday call on a moblie phone!
Ourselves and the RNLI do not charge for rescues. The Lifeboats are funded thru voluntary contributions from the public and we are funded by the government.
Check out the MCA website and the RNLI website for the work we do.
We were called out last year to a guy who broke down in thick fog off Alnmouth. His prop had sheared off. Visibility was down to mebbes 50m and Ourselves (Boulmer CRT) and Amble CRT performed communications from Alnmouth bay with both the Offshore lifeboat and ILB.
When he was towed back to Amble harbour, this guy had none of the basic lifesaving equipment on board. No VHF, EPIRB, flares, life jackets, first aid kit. Nothing. He'd made the mayday call on a moblie phone!
Ourselves and the RNLI do not charge for rescues. The Lifeboats are funded thru voluntary contributions from the public and we are funded by the government.
Check out the MCA website and the RNLI website for the work we do.
mark
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offtopic, but the RNLI funding is a curious one, yes they are funded solely through donations, but have a look at their web site and their annual report for last year. Whilst closing down stations as cost saving measures, they currently have £450 million in reserve. Its a curious one
marksworld
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would it not have been the BVLS that went out from blyth?
cheers
mark
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mark
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willywetegg
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5% of 450 million? that is still 22.5 million a year? How much money do they need?
Looking at some of the posts on NESA that have been made since I joined, I would say they needed every penny. Have a look for yourself and tell me I am wrong.
Jim.
Looking at some of the posts on NESA that have been made since I joined, I would say they needed every penny. Have a look for yourself and tell me I am wrong.
Jim.
