This boils my blood

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Safetyman

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If you haven't seen this before about the soldiers on trial for killing an Afghan watch this link but beware some might be offended graphic nature of it:-

BBC News - Court releases audio of alleged Marine Afghan murder

What gets me is that if the boot had been on the other foot the Aghan would have been lauded as a hero and yet we prosecute our boys for the same thing.

Appreciation of the work that our soldiers do had been much more appreciated over the last few years with the Help for Heroes charity, etc. This does not help at all.

I know it breaches the Geneva Convention but it is war, fighting an enemy that probably couldn't give a toss about the convention seems like an unfair playing field to me
 
:thumbup:this sort of thing goes on in every conflict and although I agree the coverage of this doesn't do the help for heros much good in my opinion they deserve a medal
 
I guess we have to rise above it, take the moral high ground...2 wrongs and all that.

Know what you mean though lads :(
 
A massive travesty of justice and the poor lad now faces a life sentence for the so called crime. Someone putting his life on the line for queen and country is now a criminal.

The biggest tragedy is the comments from the Brigadier who said ""It should not have happened, and it should never happen again". I think what he really meant was it "Should never have been recorded and it should never be recorded in the future"

Sometimes you have to say the right things to protect one's future:o

Enough said
 
The afghan was seriously wounded before he was shot dead, chances are he would have died of his injuries. More like putting him out of his misery. News coverage of these events shouldn't be allowed IMO as it only makes it more difficult for the those on the front line I.e revenge attacks.
 
Safetyman said:
A massive travesty of justice and the poor lad now faces a life sentence for the so called crime. Someone putting his life on the line for queen and country is now a criminal.

The biggest tragedy is the comments from the Brigadier who said ""It should not have happened, and it should never happen again". I think what he really meant was it "Should never have been recorded and it should never be recorded in the future"

Sometimes you have to say the right things to protect one's future:o

Enough said
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Nail on the head there bud.
 
Safetyman said:
If you haven't seen this before about the soldiers on trial for killing an Afghan watch this link but beware some might be offended graphic nature of it:-

BBC News - Court releases audio of alleged Marine Afghan murder

What gets me is that if the boot had been on the other foot the Aghan would have been lauded as a hero and yet we prosecute our boys for the same thing.

Appreciation of the work that our soldiers do had been much more appreciated over the last few years with the Help for Heroes charity, etc. This does not help at all.

I know it breaches the Geneva Convention but it is war, fighting an enemy that probably couldn't give a toss about the convention seems like an unfair playing field to me
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I personally couldnt give a **** that they shot him

But you cant condone him shooting the afghan then being all outraged when they do it to our boys
 
he didn't have his heed chopped off as he walked down the street minding his own business the afghan was obviously up to no good for him to be shot in the first place cant see this being good for moral for our lads, weather you think its right or wrong the top brass should of stood by him, it should have been covered up.
 
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please don't take this as being racist, if you do then you've took it the wrong way but ive just come back from the toilet and i was sitting thinking.... have you ever seen an Asian fisherman, like a muslim fisherman, with full on turban or whatever??? cos I havnt:confused: suppose it would keep your heed warm!!!:D
 
No he may not of chopped off his head but he executed him for no reason so he is just as bad. You cant condone his behaviour then have all out rage when someone else does it to one of our soldiers. Jus because he is a soldier does not give him any powers above the law. Yes he is fighting for queen and country but he did choose to do it no one forced him to be there. I have a massive respect for soldiers and think thy should be paid a lot more than the footballers but its never going to happen. However there is a big life risk when you sign up for the army or any forces and when people keep demanding our troops out from afghan and hostile places if the government could I am pretty sure they would
 
Cold blooded murder plain and simple. No better than the so called terrorists. Why are we even in Afghanistan??
 
kayos said:
Cold blooded murder plain and simple. No better than the so called terrorists. Why are we even in Afghanistan??
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I dunno, I think considering the circumstances it cant be compared to your typical cold blooded murder

Lets not forget the guy who was "executed" was a terrorist and 30 minutes earlier was trying to kill our lads/capture and video beheading - say Allah told him to do it...etc
The terrorist was badly wounded already and mortality was "likely" even had first aid been administered.

I do not deny that it is murder what our lad did and absolutely stupid what he said after killing him, which was probably the nail in the coffin....but comparing him to a terrorist and your typical murderer cant be right.

I cant help but feel an injustice here
 
"The gut was a terrorist"

A terrorist, really? He was fighting an armed foreign power who had invaded his sovereign land. Sounds like the definition of a freedom fighter to me!

Don't get me wrong I have nothing but admiration for the young men who join the army, but the government who send them to these places should be ashamed of themselves, as should we for allowing them do it in our name.
 
rules/laws/geneva convention.

he broke them all. We are supposed to be be civilised and way above their level. If he was already moribund and of no further risk, leave him there to die and get on with your job.

A bigger question should be why did his colleague, who in the transcript knew they had done wrong, not only keep the video, but keep a copy of it on his own personal laptop??

To me that is more twisted than the killing itself. Why did he need to keep that? If he had deleted it, nothing would ever have been heard of the whole incident

As it is, we have to be seen to uphold the rules or we are no better than the terrorists we are fighting, and actions like this give them yet more reasons to go on the offensive. Unfortunate outcome for the soldier concerned, who may well have thought he was doing the guy a favour by ending him, but they are the rules of the game he signed up for, and he has to suffer the consequences

He'll get military prison, and due to the nature of this will probably be well looked after
 
kayos said:
Cold blooded murder plain and simple. No better than the so called terrorists. Why are we even in Afghanistan??
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How dare you say he us no better than them, rememberance day tomorrow but one if iur lads is no better than a terrorist?
It's war, he killed an enemy, they've got i.e.ds hidden all over the place,killing troops and civilians , cowards. the only crime commited here is that this lad has been charged, over 400 uk troops have been killed, the lad had completed numerous tours of duty and would have seen some horrific sites , and lost a lot of friends he's more of a hero than a criminal. This should never have been brought to trial and the info should not have been in the public domain , war is messy. The soldiers are heroes, every 1 of them
 
eastpierlad said:
How dare you say he us no better than them, rememberance day tomorrow but one if iur lads is no better than a terrorist?
It's war, he killed an enemy, they've got i.e.ds hidden all over the place,killing troops and civilians , cowards. the only crime commited here is that this lad has been charged, over 400 uk troops have been killed, the lad had completed numerous tours of duty and would have seen some horrific sites , and lost a lot of friends he's more of a hero than a criminal. This should never have been brought to trial and the info should not have been in the public domain , war is messy. The soldiers are heroes, every 1 of them
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another left wing reply from eastpier surprise surprise when he signed up to join the army it means you sign to war that does not give you the right to kill someone unless its self defence. If that's your opinion war is war and all the british soldiers killed by the i.e.ds are fine if war is war get of your racist fascist high horse you complete bell end
 
big phil 123 said:
another left wing reply from eastpier surprise surprise when he signed up to join the army it means you sign to war that does not give you the right to kill someone unless its self defence. If that's your opinion war is war and all the british soldiers killed by the i.e.ds are fine if war is war get of your racist fascist high horse you complete bell end
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You're an EMBARRASMENT lad, left wing? Really? U haven't got a clue, left wing? You obviously don't know your left from you're right! Why start a personal attack? You're obviously not too bright, left wing? Hahaha, daft plastic smb springs to mind!
 
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