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Kev1n
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I was in the same position last year which is when I was put off the Arvors by the reports of turbo failure. All the turbo problems I read about were related specifically to the VW engines, even Arvor have stopped using these now. The VW engine was a marinised car engine which is designed to speed-up and slow down a lot, this means the turbo’s waste gate is continuously moving unlike on a boat where the engine is opened up to a cruising speed and left there and eventually seize.
Ocqueteaus are usually fitted with the Toyota based Nanni engine which seem pretty reliable so I was happy to look at this option. Oddly, the 115hp Nanni has a capacity of about 3.8L and still relies on the turbo to boost output although it only revs to 2800RPM.
Regular maintainance helps keep turbos in good condition, hence the adage “old turbos don’t die, they are killed.” Regular oil changes and allowing time for them to warm up before high revs and cool down by idling for a few minutes before turning the engine off helps prolong turbo life.
Ocqueteaus are usually fitted with the Toyota based Nanni engine which seem pretty reliable so I was happy to look at this option. Oddly, the 115hp Nanni has a capacity of about 3.8L and still relies on the turbo to boost output although it only revs to 2800RPM.
Regular maintainance helps keep turbos in good condition, hence the adage “old turbos don’t die, they are killed.” Regular oil changes and allowing time for them to warm up before high revs and cool down by idling for a few minutes before turning the engine off helps prolong turbo life.
northeast1
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All good points and views and a lot to take in for the next purchase.
I have set in my mind 3 boats now and also the engine and size so almost there
I have set in my mind 3 boats now and also the engine and size so almost there
oldessox
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All good points and views and a lot to take in for the next purchase.
I have set in my mind 3 boats now and also the engine and size so almost there
What are your thoughts on diesel v petrol engines Rich? Or more to the point inboard shaft v outboard v sterndrive options , I don't know jack about boats , but some that do on other forums had me convinced an inboard would be a better fishing vessel due to the weight being in the centre of the boat , I'm not so sure now
My preferences are Arvor 215 , beneteau antares 620/680 or a Quicksilver 640 , though there are plenty more out there that tick the right boxes , when the time comes it'll be the deal that swings it rather than a particular boat I suspect.
Ray
jason
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Sure I read somewhere about Arvor's with the VW engine having probs (on WSF I think) but don't think Norman's ever had any bother with the turbo on his engine, and we all know Slinky only does one speed
your quite wrong there Keith it does 2 speeds - fast and stop.
northeast1
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I would say the main down side on the outboards was the fuel cost but since it is almost the same now then its up in the air. For me i like the inboard engines, never been a fan of the out boards, being from a engineering back ground just something about the engine noise and a poxi bit of plastic and metal on the back to a big chunk of cast iron and steal in the middle.
So i would say not much between inboard and outboard from many aspects.
So i would say not much between inboard and outboard from many aspects.
krysb
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Norman
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agree with richie on his last post that I also prefer an inboard and shaft, in fact it was originally my main must have list 1) inboard 2) Diesel 3) shaft .... but as richie rightly says a lot was based on price of red deisel so am not quite as sure if I were buying new now (although I`d never swop inboard at the moment )
my only point of wonder is that now Slinky Kate is over 10 years old, all systems are ok but I did look to re-engine as maybe a bonus for the future ...
but its not really possible as I would have to go for a new type engine completely which would be difficult to fit but moreover to obtain the 105 HP equivalent it is in the region of £15K (plus the fittings)
whereas an outboard would have been a 2 day job and at half the cost
just a point to clear here, what does everyone mean by the VW engine ?
I have a volvo penta marine .... VW is volkswagon ?
norm
)my only point of wonder is that now Slinky Kate is over 10 years old, all systems are ok but I did look to re-engine as maybe a bonus for the future ...
but its not really possible as I would have to go for a new type engine completely which would be difficult to fit but moreover to obtain the 105 HP equivalent it is in the region of £15K (plus the fittings)
whereas an outboard would have been a 2 day job and at half the cost
just a point to clear here, what does everyone mean by the VW engine ?
I have a volvo penta marine .... VW is volkswagon ?
norm
mark
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very good sea boats, full displacement hull so not going anywhere fast, 8-10knots absolute maximum depending on length
there's quite a few motor sailor watsons that have circumnavigated
KeithB
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thanks Mark i was looking at a few motor sailors a few months back as my dream was to sail the Caledonian canal but a cruel twist of fait has put it on hold for the time being ps ive been following your blogs on your boat pansy great reading and im sure you will get there in the end regards batt22
Kev1n
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just a point to clear here, what does everyone mean by the VW engine ?
I have a volvo penta marine .... VW is volkswagon ?
norm
Yes the VW engine is Volkswagen, that was commonly fitted to Arvors until recently.
northeast1
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Yer spoke with a dealer today about this and all of the above is correct, they had such issues with them they now no longer make them that model with that design of engine and some insurance companys wont cover you for them.
The Volvo Penta engines seem to be a good engine if the engineers word is anything to go by and the is Nanni rated the best but i have a Nanni 4.2 and i know how hard it is to get parts and the cost is not cheap, mind they are built like a tank well a tractor as that is what they are from.
As stated search will go on for many months yet and i can see a few trips down the south coast and south west coast in the next 12 months.
The Volvo Penta engines seem to be a good engine if the engineers word is anything to go by and the is Nanni rated the best but i have a Nanni 4.2 and i know how hard it is to get parts and the cost is not cheap, mind they are built like a tank well a tractor as that is what they are from.
As stated search will go on for many months yet and i can see a few trips down the south coast and south west coast in the next 12 months.
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