Warning Cambois Pier!

Thank\'s again insanojackson2 for a very informative post.

Do you have a name that you would like to be called as it would be so much easier mate lol. It doesn\'t have to be your real one.

The only problem that I and probably a few others have is. The Liverpool lads that were arrested for crimes that were far beyond what they were doing.

They were arrested in quite a high profile with anti terrorist charges held against them. Who is to say that this could not happen to me or even you when fishing these venues.

I am not advocating fishing these places as it is not allowed but would apreciate a bit more information on the subject.

Jim.
 
Also mean\'t to say that there are still far too many post\'s only consisting of hear say and no one has answered my previous post to tell us what was said and done to the three fishermen that were alledgedly arrested for fishing Cambois pier.

Again Keith not having a pop as you posted what you saw as a genuine piece of advice. I would have done the same mate. I know you and you would not post that off your own back if you did not believe it to be true.

Please help the forum out with this information.

Jim.
 
The only other option to consider would be that having committed the offence of trespass the police may use Sec 25 of The Police and Criminal Evidence Act (1) and (3)i what this basically states is that if the police believe you have committed a non-arrestable offence ie trespass and as at (1) they believe you have provided them with a false name or you have not provided an address suitable for service of a summons then they can arrest, only in order to establish your true identity. Part (3)i Again you have committed a non-arrestable offence but also they believe that your arrest is necessary in order to prevent you causing harm to yourself or others. Just another to throw into the pot! In these instances i would suggest seizure of any fear would be a temp measure to prevent loss or damage.
 
The only other option to consider would be that having committed the offence of trespass the police may use Sec 25 of The Police and Criminal Evidence Act (1) and (3)i what this basically states is that if the police believe you have committed a non-arrestable offence ie trespass and as at (1) they believe you have provided them with a false name or you have not provided an address suitable for service of a summons then they can arrest, only in order to establish your true identity. Part (3)i Again you have committed a non-arrestable offence but also they believe that your arrest is necessary in order to prevent you causing harm to yourself or others. Just another to throw into the pot! In these instances i would suggest seizure of any fear would be a temp measure to prevent loss or damage.
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Not an option Im afraid sec 25 of pace does not exist anymore. It was killed off on 1st jan when the serious organised crime and police act came into force. Anyway simple tresspass is not an offence the police would deal with.

I have done some digging today and there is a local bylaw that makes it an offence to trespass in sunderland docks! cannot find any for blyth though.

If somebody can confirm they were actually arrested, the circumstances, what the outcome was and if and why their tackle was seized i can tell you if it was right or wrong. Anything else would be pure speculation

[Edited on 26/1/2006 by insanojackson2]
 
two points...................
I spoke to a crewman of BVLS who works for the same company as me,he witnessed what happened last Sunday \"I seen fishermen/fisherman being escorted off the pier by Northumbria Police officers and to the best of my knowledge there was no arrest made and probably only got a good talking to but maybe who ever left the message on the website knows a bit more than me but it certainly was\'nt discussed at there base/HQ\" he said he would ask over the weekend if there was any truth in what happened.
Another lad at work is a Magistrate and confirmed what others have said.
\"Trespass is not a criminal offence,however alot of cases that have came before him have resulted in defendants being charged with criminal damage as thats the only charge that will stick\"
He would\'nt comment on this incident and said he had no knowledge of any Angler being charge with Trespass/Criminal Damage related crimes but said every case is unique.
 
the advice you have offered mate has been top notch , i dont think i will be recomending cambois pier to any1 in a while until all this has been sorted out for definate
cheers for all the advice mate.
 
This may be a waste of time as the start of this thread still hasnt been confirmed but if it helps, I have spoken to the Marine Unit (Police) today and may be able to clarify things a bit.

It is blatently obvious if you have to climb over fences/walls or swing like a monkey from climbing ropes that someone is trying to keep you out of their territory !....after all if someone decided to use your own back garden as a walk through when you have high fences up, it would probably start to p*ss you off after a while.

If you enter any land/area that is privately owned you are tresspassing. If the police are informed you may well be asked to leave and your details requested which can be passed onto the owner of the land. It is up to the owner if they take out a prosecution. This is a civil matter and should not be confused with criminal tresspass which was brought in specifically to combat raves etc as the laws in place were not effective to deal with that particular problem .....

If you set your lip up with any choice language and commit an offence contrary to the Public Order Act you can expect to get arrested. Your gear will obviously be taken with you and on your release you will be given your gear back as the cops have a duty to look after your property whilst you are in custody and lets face it how would you like a box full of lug/rag/squid and fish stinking up your office. This is not confiscation, it is just that you will find it hard no matter how much of a distance caster you are to hit \'MARK X\' from the inside of a cell.

MORAL/ADVICE : If you get caught out, keep your gob shut or if you do open it, at least apologise for wasting the cops time as they could be patrolling around where your cars are parked keeping the vermin away and if they ask for your details and request you to vamoose then do what they ask.
 
And take his shoe laces away, his belt, his dignity, his toilet privliges, his call for help button, his cigs and definatly his white lightening :P

Wouldn\'t have you any other way Ell Boy. :D
 
My anti cop comment was misplaced, I have been following these posts with interest and appreciate the information yourself and others have posted for us. I post in haste and repent at leisure. Your last post makes much sense foz, I was apologising for comments aimed at insano in a one-eyed red wine cider moment last night.

I will confine my anti cop rants to the chat area in future



[Edited on 29/1/2006 by Charlie_Thompson]
 
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