Whats going on?
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I have tried to write something on this subject as it has really hit a nerve with me and I have never been so angry about the way that we are being made to cow-tow to others so we do not offend (in general not on the board).
I would like to think that I am one of the most tolerant people of all things but I feel like I am being bullied by this huge oppression (if that is the right word to use) Ever since political correctness hit (whenever it did) we could no longer say \'fat\' they are dietetically challenged. People are no longer short they are \'vertically challenged\' and people are no longer \'skint\' they are fiscally challenged. That is what is wrong with the world Political Bloody Correctness.....we have become so used to wrapping everything that could possibly offend in cotton wool that when we need to vent our spleen we get a bollocking when we do. (again not the board in general).
It is like the wise people at Spitting Image used to say \" It is Political Correctness gone mad\"
I would like to think that I am one of the most tolerant people of all things but I feel like I am being bullied by this huge oppression (if that is the right word to use) Ever since political correctness hit (whenever it did) we could no longer say \'fat\' they are dietetically challenged. People are no longer short they are \'vertically challenged\' and people are no longer \'skint\' they are fiscally challenged. That is what is wrong with the world Political Bloody Correctness.....we have become so used to wrapping everything that could possibly offend in cotton wool that when we need to vent our spleen we get a bollocking when we do. (again not the board in general).
It is like the wise people at Spitting Image used to say \" It is Political Correctness gone mad\"
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From what I\'ve seen on the news, the pressure being heaped on both the police and the Govt to take action over the blatant \"incitement\" incidents is enormous. Whether such action will be taken, I guess we\'ll see.
The demonstration was attended mainly by law abiding, moderate Muslims and, as has happened many many times during the course of demonstrations (going back to the earliest ones I can remember - the anti Vietnam war demonstration in Grosvenor Square), there were people attending who were INTENT on causing \"trouble\".
How many times on NESA have we complained about the minority of idiots who give the majority of anglers a bad name??
Just for a moment ......put yourself in the position of the bloke in charge of policing the demonstration.
Do you wade in with riot police to make arrests on those carrying the \"incitement\" banners and risk kicking off a full scale riot. We\'ve all seen that sort of thing happen in the past.
Or, do you gather information on those who are seen to be instigating violence and act on that information once you\'ve assimilated it.
Whether or not that is the case and how things will pan out, I don\'t know......as I said, I guess we\'ll just have to wait & see.
The demonstration was attended mainly by law abiding, moderate Muslims and, as has happened many many times during the course of demonstrations (going back to the earliest ones I can remember - the anti Vietnam war demonstration in Grosvenor Square), there were people attending who were INTENT on causing \"trouble\".
How many times on NESA have we complained about the minority of idiots who give the majority of anglers a bad name??
Just for a moment ......put yourself in the position of the bloke in charge of policing the demonstration.
Do you wade in with riot police to make arrests on those carrying the \"incitement\" banners and risk kicking off a full scale riot. We\'ve all seen that sort of thing happen in the past.
Or, do you gather information on those who are seen to be instigating violence and act on that information once you\'ve assimilated it.
Whether or not that is the case and how things will pan out, I don\'t know......as I said, I guess we\'ll just have to wait & see.
mickthefish
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\'politcal correctness\' and \' human rights\', what a load of shit !
ive just thought of a new one . \' cancer protection \' . bollox!
ive just thought of a new one . \' cancer protection \' . bollox!
I agree that there will always be a minority who will spoil it for the majority, but we have to be able to be free to say that....and we are not. I would love for the police to be able to do what they need to do with the minimum of fuss but the government are so scared of offending anyone they place impossible restrictions on the way that the police can do the job.
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\"I agree that there will always be a minority who will spoil it for the majority, but we have to be able to be free to say that......and we are not.\"
I think we are, Clare.
The dodgey ground is where everybody of a particular faith or belief is labled the same as the extremists.
The people who are offended the most by extremist groups are those who are seen by \"outsiders\" to be a part of such extremism.
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I think we are, Clare.
The dodgey ground is where everybody of a particular faith or belief is labled the same as the extremists.
The people who are offended the most by extremist groups are those who are seen by \"outsiders\" to be a part of such extremism.
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Just had a thought..... a question, really..........
EXTREMISM............why does it always seem to go the way of violence?.............isn\'t there another \"extreme\"............the totally opposite of violence?
EXTREMISM............why does it always seem to go the way of violence?.............isn\'t there another \"extreme\"............the totally opposite of violence?
In all fairness I can see the point of what you are saying Tony. But if you dare mention anything to do with the current tensions in the world people are scared to say anything. So in that sense we are not.
I know of a conversation which happened in my office regarding the situation about the cartoons and someone walked in and it stopped instantly, not because it had ended but because the people were wary of who had walked in.
The company that I work for has issued guidelines on how we approach people of varying faiths so we do not offend them and so we do not in any way cause the company to be sued (the company I work for is American btw).
My point is that the majority of people are scared to express who they are, yet the minority get away with murder. Literally.
I know of a conversation which happened in my office regarding the situation about the cartoons and someone walked in and it stopped instantly, not because it had ended but because the people were wary of who had walked in.
The company that I work for has issued guidelines on how we approach people of varying faiths so we do not offend them and so we do not in any way cause the company to be sued (the company I work for is American btw).
My point is that the majority of people are scared to express who they are, yet the minority get away with murder. Literally.
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Lol Clare...........you wanna try being in Local Govt. :exclam: :exclam:
SIXFOOTSTEVE
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Most companies these days are the same Clare ,the bigger the company the bigger its guidelines on race ,colour ,height, weight ..anything that may be deemed by someone or anyone to be offensive .
Now then ,my opinion is that this type of oppression of free speach is highly offensive to someone like me ( a direct straight talking person).
This country of ours is unbelievable, my god you\'ve only to hear the word minority and those in management /government etc. sit up straight and give their FULL attention .
Now then ,my opinion is that this type of oppression of free speach is highly offensive to someone like me ( a direct straight talking person).
This country of ours is unbelievable, my god you\'ve only to hear the word minority and those in management /government etc. sit up straight and give their FULL attention .
What upsets me most is that we have freedom of speach in this country and we welcome every colour faith and religion into our country but I would not be tolerated in there country and my religous beliefs would definately not be tolerated and this deeply hurts me.My wife who could live side by side with anyone is starting to have second thoughts,I never thought I\'d see they day when she passed comment about recent events and I think alot more people are feeling the same,very sad times.Quite fancy New Zealand as well Steve,similar to this country and the fishing looks canny
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I was gonna write out something geet long winded, but.....I almost forgot.......something far more interesting to do............ GO STEELERS !!!
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steve and alan what can i say ive got a few m8s who left old blighty for spain set up a bar thought to hell with england its going to the dogs its sinking faster than the titanic well my personal view is rats leaving a sinking ship i love my country im here till the day i peg out i will not stand by and watch these £100000 mp\'s distroy our country now i guess you are about my age 40\'s aye ? the thatcher age you know buy ya council house put a new door on ? aye well its time to stand up for england fly the flag with pride dont be afraid ya ganna get arrested for doing so we need our country back for our grand bairnes full stop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok win the lotto where would you go ? ohh shit im off again but this country is getting worse day by day sorry but id die for my country and my family we need old labour back i wonder if any mp\'s have the guts to form a new party be strong on imagration and get this country back to the proud place we used to be :casstet:
Davyred
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One thought...
Who was to know that the piece of sc** dressed as a suicide bomber DIDN\'T have his pockets filled full of explosives??? Is dressing as a suicide bomber that different from waving a replica firearm about?
He shouldn\'t have been arrested on the spot, he should have been challenged by armed police and the s**t scared out of him. What would have happened if he\'d been shot by armed police, who would\'ve blamed them??? Not me.
I see he\'s apologised, but that doesn\'t wash with me. He must have thought about what he was doing, to get maximum effect. He got it, he deserves his punishment.
Who was to know that the piece of sc** dressed as a suicide bomber DIDN\'T have his pockets filled full of explosives??? Is dressing as a suicide bomber that different from waving a replica firearm about?
He shouldn\'t have been arrested on the spot, he should have been challenged by armed police and the s**t scared out of him. What would have happened if he\'d been shot by armed police, who would\'ve blamed them??? Not me.
I see he\'s apologised, but that doesn\'t wash with me. He must have thought about what he was doing, to get maximum effect. He got it, he deserves his punishment.
BriH
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I said excactly that when i saw him on the TV - what will happen if the \"Top Loony\" tells them all to wear this gear on a certain day - utter mayhem - the Clown who was wearing it could very easily have been \" took out \" . It would have happened in other Places i have visited.
marksworld
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just being listening to the news and the cheif of police said they did not make arrested because they were gathering evidence and videos of what went on. he also said if they had gone in heavy handed there would have been pitch riots. that got me thinking. that did not happen when the poll tax demos were going on..... police sraight in and arrests were made........ miners pickets........... police in again more arrests........ even small demos like hunting the police seem to step in and arrest. whats the world comming to eh. ever since i could read i have seen cartoons taking the mick out of the irish, catholics(myself), geordies etc, you dont see us going on demos just because someone is having a laugh at our expence. laugh back at it stand tall and get on with life its to short. hope that makes sence.
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marksworld
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we might not be alive to see it but i reckon one day there might be a revolution. people can only take so much 
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