your dead right gary with the proper spigots no issues at all last for years and years carbon it self is a really strong material but has very poor wear qualities as for poor micky i thought when he caught his record fish on that brand of rod the lad should of got some form of a gesture off julian i mean how many people by on the strength of what rods can do and any other sea fishing related items for that matter pigs might fly springs to mind maybe it was,nt a afaw rod i do,nt know i,m quite sure it was a century rod are you listening simon chilcot lol