Amble SAC wrasse ban

[tonyfromalnwick]

It was agreed at last nights AGM that wrasse will no longer be eligible to be weighed in at club and open comps run by ASAC.

The vote wasn't unanimous though, with the main argument being that a ban might affect attendances for future open comps. We will find out next summer.

It was felt that the killing and subsequent dumping of these slow growing fish was simply a waste, and we should be looking to protect the "non edible" species around our coast. I know a few lads eat them, but not enough to justify leaving a pile of dead fish lying around, going to waste after a comp.

I really think we have taken a forward step here, and would hope other clubs and opens might follow.

 

[codseeker]

i totally agree thanks for the update

 

[fishaman]

agree 100%

 

[Lowrider]

Totally support that

 

[lingking]

wrasse

wrasse

i dont shore fish to any extent,but its a good move.

 

[rodbender]

wrasse ban

wrasse ban

Conservation is what its all about.I also think fish size limits should be looked into as well when comp fishing.

 

[codonly]

Totally agree,well done

 

[nick1]

About time, they should be banned from ALL club and open comps imho, definatly a good move, well done

 

[Marty.E.]

Am I the only one who disagreea with this. In my opion if you go fishing you cannot be choosy what fish take your bait and if that happems to be a wrasse then I think you should be able to weigh it in. When fishing through the summer for red codling everybody weighs them in even if they are just 1 pound but most people don't eat them because of the worms, so whats the difference if these fish are caught then killed and dumped ? As far as I am concerned a fish is a fish and if it is legal to land then so be it !

 

[Beacon1]

Conservation is what its all about.I also think fish size limits should be looked into as well when comp fishing.............totally agree ,well done those in favour of the wrasse ban other clubs should hopefully follow

 

[codcatcher3000]

could argue on both sides......but comp should change the way its done could be another way forward.....why wait for the weigh in .....judgign should be done more proactively during the comp then after .....there enough humans to do so ...if we really wanna look after the fish i guess

 

[Stewart 1971]

I agree with those saying that while this is a good move it opens up more questions than answers. Where do you draw the line? How many people eat Dogfish? Flounder? Coalies? Red Cod even?

Killed fish to be weighed in and dumped in the bin are always going to be a problem with "in the bucket" matches. Where I've been living these past few years these type of matches are unheard of now, everything is measure and release and everything you catch counts - Rockling can win you a match, all fish over 18cm are measured and anything under is a "top-up" and given 1oz.

Unfortunately there is a massive barrier to this happening because of the tradition of the rover comp as opposed to pegging. While for big opens of 200 plus people pegging might be difficult for club matches of 20 or 30 anglers it would be very easy - you don't even have top peg out you can just do a "walk on" between (limited) set boundaries. But it would mean a big change in how people view matches and one I don't see happening anytime soon.

It was "in the bucket" matches that destroyed the Flounder fishing on the River Wear 20 years ago, fishing that is only just starting to recover. So while this is a good step until clubs start thinking seriously about adopting measure and release it is not much more than well intentioned tokenism I'm afraid.

 

[tonyfromalnwick]

could argue on both sides......but comp should change the way its done could be another way forward.....why wait for the weigh in .....judgign should be done more proactively during the comp then after .....there enough humans to do so ...if we really wanna look after the fish i guess

We've talked about this as well, but for an open "rover" type comp like ours it just isn't practical. We would need in excess of 50 weigh-in points, each with two marshals, and each with a set of scales.
Just think how many weigh-in points you would need to cover Druridge Bay alone, let alone one on each rock end mark !

 

[dt1]

Blyth club gave a nominal weight for a wrasse [2LB ] if my memory serves me, during the summer league matches a few years ago, members put on trust worked well, however wouldnt work in a open for obvious reasons. Totally in favour of a ban or preferably a catch and release where practible.........Dave.

 

[Stewart 1971]

Hi Tony, having fished plenty of matches the last few years that is not the problem. In measure and release matches everyone measures for the next door angler based on length to weight. It is a very good system and very difficult to cheat as word spreads along the beach very quickly when someone catches a good fish / is doing well.

The big problem would be on the isolated rock marks - how do you include them in the boundaries? How viable are they to peg and if not how do you police them to prevent cheating?

As I said the monthly club matches of 20 - 30 anglers are easy, for an open the answer is much more difficult.

 

[tonyfromalnwick]

As I said the monthly club matches of 20 - 30 anglers are easy, for an open the answer is much more difficult.

Totally agree about club matches mate. The problem is, our winter open usually attracts between 400 and 500 anglers !

 

[el_sid]

thats great news mate lets hope more follow

and yes there are alot of other issues to sort out with weigh ins etc but we should look at this as a big step towards them.

Welldone to all involved

 

[nick1]

Blyth club gave a nominal weight for a wrasse [2LB ] if my memory serves me, during the summer league matches a few years ago, members put on trust worked well, however wouldnt work in a open for obvious reasons. Totally in favour of a ban or preferably a catch and release where practible.........Dave.

i have put using a set weight forward but it just got frowned upon so ban them for me. am pretty sure thier ban from some matchs up scotland along with sea scorpians too because you catch alot of them ?

 

[tonyfromalnwick]

i have put using a set weight forward but it just got frowned upon so ban them for me. am pretty sure thier ban from some matchs up scotland along with sea scorpians too because you catch alot of them ?

Quite a few clubs north of the border have already banned them from weigh-ins.

 

[weefus]

The South Shields club banned wrasse and rockling a couple of years ago from our open comp, and now we will be banning eels as well.