Anchoring and depths.

[Ankle.Biter]

I have about 90feet of rope so have never anchored at more than 40feet.

Does anyone anchor deeper waters, and if so how deep?


How much rope do you use?

Cheers Alan

 

[big_sean]

I have a 220mt coil of Nylon bought from these chaps

Timko Ltd (UK): 10mm White Nylon Rope Per Metre,3 Strand Nylon Rope

And I have anchored in about 200ft of water and its no bother. the chain set up is crucial though as its this which helps make the anchor work right

I would say though 90' is no way near enough anchor rope!



Sean

 

[lingking]

im with the big lad on this,the chain length/weight is very important,im sure theres a table of reccomended chain/rope lenghts that considers boat weight/water depth somewhere

i have in my mind some thing that says three and half times depth for rope length,probably well off the mark

 

[The Jester]

im with the big lad on this,the chain length/weight is very important,im sure theres a table of reccomended chain/rope lenghts that considers boat weight/water depth somewhere

i have in my mind some thing that says three and half times depth for rope length,probably well off the mark

Three times the depth youre in is a guide, which could vary greatly, if youre offshore in 250 feet of water you should have 750 feet of rope in case you get into trouble....I have 3 times the length of the boat in chain....

 

[Ankle.Biter]

Great replies, makes interesting reading.

So would you consider anchoring near or on wreck?

 

[big_sean]

Great replies, makes interesting reading.

So would you consider anchoring near or on wreck?

I have anchored wrecks and the results are very good at times

It does take some practise as with tide movements you don't want the anchor in the wreckage.

Sean

 

[lingking]

wreck anchoring can be very productive,and is generally overlooked in north east,by charters at least.quite a bit of skill,trial and error involved.

well worth having a few sacrificial anchors in case you get too close

 

[Ankle.Biter]

Thank you for the replies.

I'm interested in trying anchoring near a inshore wreck. Just to see how it works out.
I'll let you know how many anchors I lose.

Of course I'll say I caught nothing.

Alan

 

[big_sean]

Thank you for the replies.

I'm interested in trying anchoring near a inshore wreck. Just to see how it works out.
I'll let you know how many anchors I lose.

Of course I'll say I caught nothing.

Alan

Find a large wreck inshore in winter and anchor a little uptide of it and then fish into it by letting the baits roll back towards it. It works really well with very big wrecks and the fish which can be caught is great and the closer in the better


Sean

 

[mark]

especially if you can do your homework and find a wreck with a big scour to drop into

 

[Paul_h]

Personally, I don,t use any chain if I am at anchor on hard ground, rope straight through, as the anchor sets in the rocks,

however on soft ground chain is a must to get the anchor to set, enough length of chain for it to lie on the sea bed while the rock and roll of the boat won,t lift the anchor, rule of thumb is about 3 boat lengths, I think.

I tend to shorten my rope length if the boat is swinging a bit, and pay out more length when in a good strong tide if we are in a heavy swell, again with no chain on hard ground, just takes a bit of playing about in different tides and seas.
The anchor is always set to trip, normally 2 tie wraps does it for me, 31foot 5-1/2 ton.

Paul

 

[Joe-m]

anchoring on a wreck

anchoring on a wreck

If you are going to anchor on a wreck check you drift a couple of times with your plotter you may have to compensate where you drop your anchor for the wind to allow you to fish your lines straight back into the wreck, try to get the most out of the tide pointless anchoring with a hour to go, all so when you starting drop a small buoy to one side of the wreck on a soft wire grapnel mark it on the sounder to make sure you hit it, you can kite your boat on the anchor either way a small amount by tying your lazy line to a stern cleat depending how tight you pull it will determine how far you swing this is also a good method to stop you swinging at anchor, once you get the hang of it you don't need the marker, I use to be able to watch it on my westmar colour sonar and take a range, it had 360 scan and 0 - 90 deg tilt but over the top for a small boat, one of them new lowrance side scanner would be helpful, another tip try to locate the mark on wide angle then pinpoint it with a 8 deg transducer because in deep water you will mark it when you are no where near because when you turn the gain up the side lobes become more sensitive hope this helps once you have done it a few time its easy you get a mental picture of what's going on,plenty of chain to pull the anchor in at 90 degs, and as already been explained, anchor trip, 3x depth of rope, longer if you want to drop the boat back if your lines are fishing wrong, good luck.

 

[big_sean]

For me this was what I was taught at Bridlington where the skippers there would anchor wrecks often.

Drift the wreck till slack water then using tide atlas roughly go to where you would be uptide of the wreck once the tide had changed then put the anchor down you wont be on the wreck straight away but close as the tide starts to pull through the boat will settle near to and the lines will be going near the wreck. I was always taught that around the wreck at slack water the fish venture out, As the tide comes on they then then retreat to the wreck so you will be swinging onto the wreck and the kill zone. the most productive time is just as the tide comes as they seem to feed very well for about an hour then its up anchor and drift again

Most times I get about 2 hours after slack once you have done this on a certain wreck do it again on the opposite tide, then if you are 2 hours either side of slack you can anchor form the ebb to slack and then by moving from slack to flood. Basically giving about 3/4 hours of fishing over wreck on anchor. some wrecks fish better as the tide eases but others just as the flood comes through it is a guessing game but well worth it.

Sean

some fantastic ling are had doing this. but it is worth finding a big scattered wreck

 

[Ankle.Biter]

Great reading, loads to try and learn. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I'm going to give it whirl this season, see how it pans out.

Again cheers chaps.

 

[KeithB]

We did a fair bit of anchoring today, sadly didn't find the fish, Bert likes moving every 13 minutes but luckily he treat me and Jim to an alderney ring, don't know how we ever managed without it.

 

[Topfly]

Haha, good fun though. Nice try for me trying to get on that wreck.. corryvreckan whirlpool or what .

 

[canman]

When you do anchor over a wreck, it's worth putting a weaker length of rope tied to the anchor, 10ft or so, so if you snag you can break it there using the engine, and not leave a long length of rope down on the wreck.

 

[Kev1n]

Our little ‘un welded up an anchor out of thin rebar that’s strong enough to hold the boat even in a good wind but can be bent out of a snag if needed. I use it without chain as a grapnel to hook onto rough ground or as a hat stand and with the curved tines is should work on wrecks too.

 

[Joe-m]

Grapnal

Grapnal

Thats all I used does the job if you want to sit on top at slack water for some ling, or buoy, but if you anchoring to fish back into the wreck you need to be a good way uptide to let the lines run back so you need a good hold