Angling Clubs

Glenn Kilpatrick

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Ok Guy's I would really appreciate your help. Would any members of the north east angling clubs find out for me:

1. Is your club affiliated to the national federation of sea anglers. could you let me know which club your in and if the answer is yes or no.

and

2. If they are affiliated have you been consulted on proposals for bag limits and Licences ?

Your help would be really really appreciated.

If you don't want to discuss this on here you can always email me at [email protected]

Cheers - Glenn
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There are rumours (although from a trusted source) that a member of NFSA told a DEFRA appointee at last weeks meeting regarding the recreational sea angling strategy. That they had consulted their membership and the majority were in favour of the introduction of a sea angling licence and bag limits. I am wondering if they have consulted their membership ?


Wrt the RSA Strategy - the first draft can be read here :

http://www.yalasa.co.uk/recreational-sea-angling-stratagy-draft1-dec-2006.php

There is lots of talk about licences, bag limits and how anglers are effecting fish stocks

http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Political-News/Work_Proceeding_on_RSA_Strategy.html


In return for agreeing to bag limits, no take zones, licences and bait collecting restrictions we might be able to get some new things - like toilets, car parking facilities etc.

Latest on bait collecting restrictions is here :

http://www.sacn.org.uk/Conservation-and-Political-News/RSA_and_Bait_Collection_Threat-.html


You might all think I'm some sort of a crank just wanting to cause trouble. Have a read around these sites and make your minds up. If you support these things theres no harm done - you can offer your support.
 
Well as a member of NFSA I know that at no point have I been asked!
It would be interesting to see what other info you get Glenn because if this turns out to be correct my current subscription will be my last.

As for toilets and car parking, they should be provided anyway by the local councils who rake in a fortune from us sea anglers!
 
mickyo, ask google. basically it's an old manuscript dating back to the 11th century from which modern laws have evolved. also their are laws which have not been repealed. hence i will not be paying for a licence to fish in the sea,when it is my right. unless the boffins restock our,yes our seas.
 
pointless

pointless

calm down everbody.just think if they bring a bag limit on to every angling club how they going to monitor it,or how do they propose to limit bait digging?the cost of them would be astrinomical. some tosser is sitting in his nice warm office with piss all else to do.once the figures of the cost of all this shite comes out it'll soon be forgotten about.
merry xmas to you all
 
calm down everbody.just think if they bring a bag limit on to every angling club how they going to monitor it,or how do they propose to limit bait digging?the cost of them would be astrinomical. some tosser is sitting in his nice warm office with piss all else to do.once the figures of the cost of all this shite comes out it'll soon be forgotten about.
merry xmas to you all

That's common sense mate but this lot don't do common sense. Angling clubs would be really easy to police. You work out where the weigh in's are and go along. Same with open matches.

This whole business will ruin fishing as we know it in the north east.

You ask how will they stop bait digging and peeler collecting. You guys further up north are in a better position to answer that than me. Arent some of the worm beds in northumberland already no go areas ? How do they police these places.

The fact is we are heading straight towards bag limits, licences and bait digging restrictions and god knows what else.

Anglers need to be aware of this - before its too late, if it isn't already.

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The Recreational Sea Anglers Strategy is the document where all this is taking place and in notes relating to this strategy it is said that the committee hope to endorse this strategy in March 2007 (that's 3 months away).

These are some of the points made (to understand them in context you will have to read the proposed strategy):

"with relatively high angling participation levels, and a possibility that this could increase in future, anglers have the potential to have a large impact on stocks."

"Enforcement bodies should be actively involved in the development of proposals to ensure that any control measures can be enforced effectively in conjunction with existing responsibilities."

" 5.3 A combined mechanism that would raise money for the benefit of sea anglers, provide an effective communication tool, gather information to better understand anglers’ needs and enable effective monitoring and enforcement would underpin other elements of the RSA Strategy. Although there may be other tools to achieve these aims, a sea angling licence (operating in a similar way to the freshwater angling licence) could meet these needs. The costs and benefits should be transparent, justifiable and clearly understood. The associated charge would need to reflect the costs of administering and enforcing the scheme, with additional revenue returned to the angling sector through a range of projects and programmes that would enhance the angling experience. "

" 5.4 Other management tools to monitor and control the potential impact anglers have on stocks should be considered. These tools should be flexible, enable action to be taken quickly if necessary to protect vulnerable stocks as well as look to the longer term, and be driven by clear scientific evidence. The conservation benefits of taking any action would need to be proportionate to the potential impact anglers have on stocks and relative to the controls enforced in the commercial sector. Action should be taken at the most appropriate level for each species, but should be primarily driven by Sea Fisheries Committees so that measures can be designed to take account upon particular local circumstances. One possible management tool is a ‘bag limit’ where, on a case-by-case basis, the total number of fish of the identified species allowed to be taken from the fishery over a specified time period would be limited. Defra should also consider extending their existing powers to more comprehensively include anglers and enable action to be taken quickly when appropriate and proportionate. "

"5.6 SFCs already have powers that would enable the introduction of some local control measures, such as bag limits, on much shorter time scales. Pilot schemes should be considered by SFCs, working with local anglers to introduce, test and monitor the impact of the measures. This would build evidence to inform decisions about refining and using such measures on a wider basis. "

" 7.2 Support system elements, (such as access to fishing sites, development of angling structures and facilities) make it easier for anglers to carry out the key activity (fishing) itself. This is especially critical when considering how to broaden and increase participation in the sport itself, reducing the additional effort potentially new or less able bodied anglers would need to expend to go sea angling. There would also be benefits for other users sharing and accessing the same facilities, whilst structural developments might provide safe-havens or habitat replacements for juvenile and adult fish. Key elements would include:

• Protection and improvement of shore access and parking
• Provision of more small boat launching facilities
• Access to existing and new shore structures
• Creation of artificial inshore and off-shore reefs.
• Clear displays of relevant rules (MLS etc), codes of conduct and other useful data at every popular shore venue, boat launch site and aboard charter boats
• Provision of amenities for anglers at popular venues, such as bins and toilets
• A planning system that would protect access and use for RSA on existing structures and new developments, particularly for wheelchair users, young and elderly fishers. - " "-Development of these secondary elements would require funding. The introduction of a chargeable angling licence would be a way to raise funds"




There is so much more going on that I could put up info all day long. Anyone wanting to read about this will find these pages useful:

http://www.yalasa.co.uk/recreational-sea-angling-stratagy-draft1-dec-2006.php

http://www.yalasa.co.uk/articles.php
 
As I said at the start of this topic. I have it on good authority that the head of NFSA has told a DEFRA official that they have consulted their membership and they are happy with bag limits and licences. This means DEFRA will be thinking anglers are happy with this rsa Strategy.

If you are happy that great - you have nothing to worry about.

If your against licences, bag limits etc and like me think they would ruin angling in the north east we need to do something and fast.

Myself and Paul Kilpatrick are working on getting the backing of some national tackle companies (they stand to loose revenue if less people go angling). When our fishing club reconvenes in January will will be discussing cancelling membership of NFSA and letting them know why. We would appreciate a list of clubs who are afiliated to NFSA and who haven't been consulted on this matter.
We aim to present our info to DEFRA as soon as we have it.

Even if the nfsa has consulted every member (which I doubt) and they are all in agreement, we think that number is less than 5000 and far from representative of the wider angling community.
 
Angling clubs would be really easy to police. You work out where the weigh in's are and go along.


i cant see these people coming out at 11.00pm to watch a weigh in
 
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