B.O.T.A.C. Summer League 21-08-2011

[sidblank]

i fish all the local big opens and until this season due to being unemployed fished for blyth sea angling club. have no problem what so ever if they are caught and released. and in our sport casualties are always gonna be present somewhere along the line. in this case the club had an away day so it s gonna be harder to do, unlike when they fish on the pier ya close enough to others to have fish verified then returned.

 

[apollo mk3]

Apologies davy.

 

[davidhayley1945]

I can't understand all of these new age wrasse huggers.
If your conscience is pricked by killing a fish then your in the wrong game here!
Don't get me wrong,I regularly return ALL fish I catch,including codlings,bass and plaice so I am not an angler that fishes for the table-infact I don't ever eat fish.
If the argument is that they are not edible?-they are,just not very nice as full of bones. How many people eat flounders?should they be banned too?
If your argument is conservation then hell your all overlooking the fact that it's the codling stocks that are endangered not wrasse so then we should return all codlings too.
Thirdly,it is a fishing competition after all and they are not always that easy to catch so does an angler who catches say 3 wrasse for 7lb deserve to be beaten by a lucky 2lb coaly?
Another point to consider is that they are notoriously poor at surviving after being released after being dragged through the kelp either floating away belly up instantly or more commonly appearing to swim away no problems only to appear on the surface 10 mins later. So do we not go fishing incase a fish we wish to return doesn't survive?give over!
It always seems to be the same argument coming from people that rarely fish matches,at quite a few comps this year I have spoken to some top local anglers who are all dismayed at the wrasse ban and these are the lads fishing opens and supporting local clubs.
And the numbers of wrasse are becoming massively bigger year after year,go back 7 or 8 years ago and they were a bit of a novelty catch in the weed of Northumberland-now they are caught in every session up there,often 3 or 4 and not 1 codling. Look at the East fife coast over the last 10 years,exactly the same is happening here now.
So by all means,put back whatever you catch whenever you want but again if a dead fish is such a problem to anybody on a fishing forum then they must be lost!
Finally,if your clubs (if indeed you belong to one) wish to ban wrasse or impose a limit then fine but there is no need to criticise another that doesn't and to which you have no affiliation.

you put it in a nut shell thank you davy

 

[sidblank]

I was gonna say the same, I personally think they should be returned but thats my point if view. I dont condemn others that dont. my club hasnt banned wrasse but ive never caught any in a match. I personally wouldnt kill a bass anymore but dont think because i do everyone should. Its not a law just personal preference and thats down to club officials and members to vote on and decide for themselves.

 

[bigroppa]

I personally put all wrasse i catch back but thats just me. If someone wants to keep there catch its up to them, after all, its just a couple of fish. The trawlers dump thousands of dead fish every day. 2 or 3 dead wrasse weighed infor a comp arnt gonna make a difference on fish stocks.

 

[seanyrooroo]

I can't understand all of these new age wrasse huggers.
If your conscience is pricked by killing a fish then your in the wrong game here!
Don't get me wrong,I regularly return ALL fish I catch,including codlings,bass and plaice so I am not an angler that fishes for the table-infact I don't ever eat fish.
If the argument is that they are not edible?-they are,just not very nice as full of bones. How many people eat flounders?should they be banned too?
If your argument is conservation then hell your all overlooking the fact that it's the codling stocks that are endangered not wrasse so then we should return all codlings too.
Thirdly,it is a fishing competition after all and they are not always that easy to catch so does an angler who catches say 3 wrasse for 7lb deserve to be beaten by a lucky 2lb coaly?
Another point to consider is that they are notoriously poor at surviving after being released after being dragged through the kelp either floating away belly up instantly or more commonly appearing to swim away no problems only to appear on the surface 10 mins later. So do we not go fishing incase a fish we wish to return doesn't survive?give over!
It always seems to be the same argument coming from people that rarely fish matches,at quite a few comps this year I have spoken to some top local anglers who are all dismayed at the wrasse ban and these are the lads fishing opens and supporting local clubs.
And the numbers of wrasse are becoming massively bigger year after year,go back 7 or 8 years ago and they were a bit of a novelty catch in the weed of Northumberland-now they are caught in every session up there,often 3 or 4 and not 1 codling. Look at the East fife coast over the last 10 years,exactly the same is happening here now.
So by all means,put back whatever you catch whenever you want but again if a dead fish is such a problem to anybody on a fishing forum then they must be lost!
Finally,if your clubs (if indeed you belong to one) wish to ban wrasse or impose a limit then fine but there is no need to criticise another that doesn't and to which you have no affiliation.

Spot on

 

[apollo mk3]

surprise surprise !

 

[Codcodcod!]

I reckon we should just ban match fishing and fishing in general. I'll just cast on a field instead..

 

[big sid]

There lies another problem to be resolved.The green people amongst us would argue that by casting a lump of lead into a field, you would be damaging the flora/vegatation and endangering wildlife.
There will be a public outcry SAVE THE DAISY & DANDELION

 

[apollo mk3]

i think a lot of folk are hypocits. at no point did i say dont kill fish at all.

now if killing fish is not an issue, which in the great scheme of things it isn't because i myself like to eat fish and do keep a few for the table. however why do folk feel the need to keep marks so close to their chest, say for instance, bass marks ?
these fish are great sporting fish just like wrasse but folk on here go to great lengths to keep their marks under wraps, fair enough. but when asked why the most common answer is that they want the fish returned ALIVE.

like i said, hypocrits

 

[davidhayley1945]

i think a lot of folk are hypocits. at no point did i say dont kill fish at all.

now if killing fish is not an issue, which in the great scheme of things it isn't because i myself like to eat fish and do keep a few for the table. however why do folk feel the need to keep marks so close to their chest, say for instance, bass marks ?
these fish are great sporting fish just like wrasse but folk on here go to great lengths to keep their marks under wraps, fair enough. but when asked why the most common answer is that they want the fish returned ALIVE.

like i said, hypocrits

here we go again not content with stirring up the wrasse bashers your having a pop at the bass anglers now ,when you goining to give it a rest

 

[apollo mk3]

am i the only one involved in this like ! consentrate on feeling sorry for yourself !

 

[davidhayley1945]

Some nice bags of fish lads but I think its about time the wrasse were banned

you were the one that started it as usual you cant help sh/t stirring ,any way i thought you were banned under nicky 1

 

[SteWhite]

ha ha ha thats you grassed up nicky. YOU WERE COURT OFF THE NESA POLICE NEE NAA NEE NAA

 

[doj]

it s a pity youred not banned you can,t anwser members questions and give advice without giving childest and sarcastic comments,stick to the word forum its all your good for

one of the reasons youre not so popualar as well - you can dish it but cant take it

 

[davidhayley1945]

one of the reasons youre not so popualar as well - you can dish it but cant take it

read r,m 16 8 11 the piece that sticks out in to the wet stuff buy big sid ,and then read the rest off his posts ,you will find very sarcastic and childest remarks .all off my posts have been to help other members davy

 

[doj]

read r,m 16 8 11 the piece that sticks out in to the wet stuff buy big sid ,and then read the rest off his posts ,you will find very sarcastic and childest remarks .all off my posts have been to help other members davy

No-one disputes your one of the NEs best Anglers, and a look at your fish and club history is frankly astounding. But you carry also a bad rep for having a big mouth as well, you can dish it but can't take it - you upset a lot of people and people I know have very mixed opinions on you.

 

[davidhayley1945]

No-one disputes your one of the NEs best Anglers, and a look at your fish and club history is frankly astounding. But you carry also a bad rep for having a big mouth as well, you can dish it but can't take it - you upset a lot of people and people I know have very mixed opinions on you.

never have been or never will be one off the top north east anglers ,just a good club angler who has been very lucky in his fishing ,could never compete with the likes off chris stringer ,tony taylor ,jeff king,alec harvey bob gascoigne,tony anderson who are true legends and many more who are truly top anglers in the north east davy.

 

[Codcodcod!]

No-one disputes your one of the NEs best Anglers, and a look at your fish and club history is frankly astounding. But you carry also a bad rep for having a big mouth as well, you can dish it but can't take it - you upset a lot of people and people I know have very mixed opinions on you.

This is starting to get a bit personal is it not?!

I don't know you but remember YOUS are posting on a BOTAC thread and it's quite obvious that Dave cares about the club esp if you're going to bring it down.

 

[big sid]

This is starting to get a bit personal is it not?!

I don't know you but remember YOUS are posting on a BOTAC thread and it's quite obvious that Dave cares about the club esp if you're going to bring it down.

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.Obviously at some stage that opinion cant and wont be shared on an open forum.But if someone wishes to make a comment, wether its possitive or negative surly there allowed to do so.