Beggars belief

the issue of sea licences is a absolute non starter,as a keen angler of more than 30 years,and having a coarse fishing licence for the last 20 i can safely state the above opinion,i personally have had 3 checks in that time two in the same week at barmston pond (the local EA office is in the area) and another at woodlands at thirsk,having fished the angel and sharpley on numerous occassions,probably the two biggest and most used fisheries in this area yet never once seen a EA Baliff,its a complete joke,the summer morons wont buy a licence so its the year round angler thats going to be penalised for a piece of paper nobody is going to check,as for the roker situation,why not used a fraction of the money spent on baywatch clones on the beach and use the money to pay for one or two pier supervisors preferable 6ft+ and ex paras to police the piers,any crap and the instigator gets booted off the pier....
 
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waste of time, no way would they have enough people to cover just the north east coast, the people who police it would not go up against a gang of pi55ed morons, the police would not be interested, the cps would prob not consider it worth going to court if they did
us idiots who at the end of the day behave generally would be the only ones out of pocket
 
I agree with lambtonworm but it is the the police who should be doing the job,and putting a stop to the anti social behaviour, that is what we the public are already paying for. If the piers were patrolled once a day between June/August it would help, after all it is a public place and the police should be seen to be doing their job.
 
lambtonworm said:
the issue of sea licences is a absolute non starter,as a keen angler of more than 30 years,and having a coarse fishing licence for the last 20 i can safely state the above opinion,i personally have had 3 checks in that time two in the same week at barmston pond (the local EA office is in the area) and another at woodlands at thirsk,having fished the angel and sharpley on numerous occassions,probably the two biggest and most used fisheries in this area yet never once seen a EA Baliff,its a complete joke,the summer morons wont buy a licence so its the year round angler thats going to be penalised for a piece of paper nobody is going to check,as for the roker situation,why not used a fraction of the money spent on baywatch clones on the beach and use the money to pay for one or two pier supervisors preferable 6ft+ and ex paras to police the piers,any crap and the instigator gets booted off the pier....
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I agree with a lot of what you say. But I still say that a licence is the way forward coupled with stricter regulation and much stiffer enforcement. Those who fish without one get very stiff penalties and those who have one but transgress get it removed, simple really. unfortunately its the wishy washy polititians that would undermine any attempts to do this by pandering to other vested interests and being scared of offending anyone!! It works in the United States why cant it work in the U.K.
 
Personally I would have no problem with a licence, after all, trout and salmon fishermen dont have a problem with having one. But, would it make a lot of difference? Right now we have minimum landing sizes but when was the last time anyone here got their catch checked by anyone in authority? Could we realistically see the coastline being policed by bailliffs as the salmon rivers are? Maybe I am a miserable old pessimist but somehow I can't see that happening.
 
make the pier an alcohol exclusion zone...during the summer months... at least and get nesfc to set local byelaws about max bags and treatment of fish ....
 
codcatcher3000 said:
make the pier an alcohol exclusion zone...during the summer months... at least and get nesfc to set local byelaws about max bags and treatment of fish ....
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Roker And Seaburn already is a Alcohol free zone and we all know how well that works,me and the wife saw a policeman on a mobile phone the other day,so enough said really....
 
and lets just say if the licence was to be the way forward how on earth could they police it and enforce all the bylaws in reality could you ever see a baliff scrambling down a steep cliff face just to ask to see a licence i think most certainly not and besides there is that many people into sea fishing and that many places to fish from it would be almost impossible to police properly
 
A little input, possibly a charge to fish on piers in our area, and the local Harbour Comm to police them, something needs to be done urgently, to many undersize fish are being "slaughtered" daily, am getting sick to the stomach of seeing so called anglers keeping small fish, ugh!:mad: I returned 3 codling tonite, caught on spinners, all 3 averaging 30+ cms, and I put em back, not much meat on a fish that size! but!, a big but! so called anglers and I mean all!, local and our ethnic bro's keeping poddlers and the like 5-6in being kept!!!! come on man!!!!!:mad::mad::mad charging is being enforced in other parts of our country and it works!!!!!!!!!!
 
i can see what you mean i am 100% against keeping undersized fish and it makes me sick to my stomach to see them being kept,but if you put charges on piers those certain people just that small majority would move else where ie the beeches and keep even possibly smaller fish there is far too much coast line to police id be more than willing my self to pay a small fee every year to fish as long as bylaws where put into place and policed properly
 
thing about the beaches is they are no longer into deep water and will have to search for the fish holding spots, the mackerel as far as im aware are rarely caught of the beaches up here, its not a simple walk along a pier job anymore, your never going to stop the hardcore muppit but charging will go a long way as they will see it as less beer that can be taken, regular checks by the fisheries of your bag is needed, with fines for obviously undersize and a caution for anything else, less of the tolerance to the `none english speaking ` end the day a laws a law, for anyone else they apply the law even if you were not aware of the law, word will soon get around
 
i tottaly disagree with the license idea.....what about young lads or lasses for that matter wanting to get into a sport but cant because their parents cant afford to get them it fishing is a free sport this is like saying kids shouldnt be alowed in the park to play football because they damage the grass.....
 
lukey said:
i tottaly disagree with the license idea.....what about young lads or lasses for that matter wanting to get into a sport but cant because their parents cant afford to get them it fishing is a free sport this is like saying kids shouldnt be alowed in the park to play football because they damage the grass.....
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Plenty of kids coarse fish which need a licence.
Kids who play football will need gear often,even if they don't they often seem to be able to have parents that buy them the football tops that are not cheap.
Not sure if i agree with licences but doubt this sort of arguement would be considered valid.
 
Just a thought but what about a Pay and Display type system like as used in car parks. If you use the pier you buy a ticket. Dont want it to be too expensive but possibly combined with a small payment for a license would help generate enough revenue to have some sort of policing.

Something has to change or this thread will crop up every summer:mad:

My two pence worth

Jonny
 
jonny_s said:
Just a thought but what about a Pay and Display type system like as used in car parks. If you use the pier you buy a ticket. Dont want it to be too expensive but possibly combined with a small payment for a license would help generate enough revenue to have some sort of policing.

Something has to change or this thread will crop up every summer:mad:

My two pence worth

Jonny
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Quite a good idea i feel
 
but again there are too many peirs and beechs with side streets too close to them and pay and display fees would easily be avoided at the end of the day i can never see any licence coming into force nor can i see a pay and display system come into for come on those idiots that run our country aint bothered at the slightest they cant be hasseled with producing license rule all they are intrested in is taxing every single one of us until we aint got a penny left to scratch ya arse with they aint bothered about a certain species of fish been ill treated anyway thats my rant over im done with all of this bloody debate could go on for months
 
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