Berkley xts sal****er30lb

[Seanovash]

Av just bought the above it seems good quality line but will it be any good on rocky bottoms as av never used it before

 

[g-force]

I've been using the 20lb recently for mixed ground and it seems very good & strong. In fact a while back I was fishing Shields pier with a mate who was also using the stuff in 18lb, and we both kept fastening up on what felt like a rope. In the dark both of us had real fun & games trying to snap the stuff, getting sliced hands trying to keep the line clear of the wall while the other pulled for a break, and believe me it took some snapping. In fact on my last chuck I managed to pull out of the snag, retrieving a bundle of old line & sinkers & stuff, so I rate it pretty highly. I can only imagine the 30lb stuff would be fine for rough ground and the 45lb stuff is the same diameter as the 30lb line I normally use.

Gary

 

[Seanovash]

Thanks for that av been using red ice witch in my opinion is cheep nd not very good at all keeps snapping with ne force been used at all so hopefully this stuff does the trick nd saves me buying more gear every other week

 

[Sea_Troot]

i have the 20lb and 30lb breaking strain and your right gary it take some snapping and good for pulling out of snags if you have a good stiff rod.

 

[Codcodcod!]

Brilliant line.

I use the 18lb on my 525's.

Don't use your rod to pull out of snags.

 

[Sea_Troot]

Brilliant line.

I use the 18lb on my 525's.

Don't use your rod to pull out of snags.

i dont i was meant to say when leaning into the snag for 30 seconds are so keeping pressure on.

 

[Seanovash]

Cheers lads am ganna spool up nd hit high water the morn morning thanks

 

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why are you fishing hard ground at this part of the season?
why not go west and fish mixed/clean ground for doggies and maybe a surprise or two?

 

[Persues]

I really like this line and rate it highly.

I've tried loads of mainlines over the last few months and came to the conclusion that the much recommended Sakuma Night Crystal might be low diameter but it has too much memory, can be very brittle and it sucks when it comes to abrasion resistance; Daiwa Tournament is much nicer to cast and fish with in general being very limp and low memory but, again, it isn't great on abrasion resistance.

Berkley XTS is pretty good overall at everything and better than the above for abrasion resistance - the best I've tried so far for rough ground fishing has been Sufix Tritanium, which was streets ahead of everything I've tried so far when it comes to abrasion resistance on rough ground.

I saw a comparative line test table online a few weeks ago where loads of brands were tested for breaking strain and abrasion, and the results don't necessarily back up manufacturer's claims...

I'll see if I can find the link when I get back home.

The one point worth mentioning here is that if you have the gear to support it then a reel and line combo for clean ground is worthwhile since different line brands offer a better solution for clean ground than most rough ground lines.

That's a luxury everyone might not be able to entertain but it's worth keeping in mind.

Good luck with your new line - I hope you waste no time christening it

 

[lambengland]

i use 20lb, its mint stuff

my 25lb suffix tritanium snaps before the 20lb xts

 

[Persues]

Found the link to the line test table:

Lines OnTest By Dave Barham

Out of curiosity, would you guys consider breaking strain more important than abrasion resistance for rough fishing ?

For me I'd settle for higher abrasion resistance with a breaking strain at or slightly higher than claimed (ie, 20 - 25lb breaking strain for a spool of 20lb line).

Everything is a trade-off, meaning we tend not to get the high breaking strain with high abrasion resistance, low memory, narrow diameter, high knot strength etc.

I went for high abrasion resistance and low memory with decent breaking strain for rough ground - you thoughts are appreciated, as always

 

[wheres the fish?]

Found the link to the line test table:

Lines OnTest By Dave Barham

Out of curiosity, would you guys consider breaking strain more important than abrasion resistance for rough fishing ?

For me I'd settle for higher abrasion resistance with a breaking strain at or slightly higher than claimed (ie, 20 - 25lb breaking strain for a spool of 20lb line).

Everything is a trade-off, meaning we tend not to get the high breaking strain with high abrasion resistance, low memory, narrow diameter, high knot strength etc.

I went for high abrasion resistance and low memory with decent breaking strain for rough ground - you thoughts are appreciated, as always

Lmao this result does not supprise me at all... cant stand the stuff...


Ultima F1 0.304 14 14 14 14

 

[g-force]

Found the link to the line test table:

Lines OnTest By Dave Barham

Out of curiosity, would you guys consider breaking strain more important than abrasion resistance for rough fishing ?

For me I'd settle for higher abrasion resistance with a breaking strain at or slightly higher than claimed (ie, 20 - 25lb breaking strain for a spool of 20lb line).

Everything is a trade-off, meaning we tend not to get the high breaking strain with high abrasion resistance, low memory, narrow diameter, high knot strength etc.

I went for high abrasion resistance and low memory with decent breaking strain for rough ground - you thoughts are appreciated, as always

As always, it's a bit of a compromise. Breaking strain, abrasion resistance, diameter & stretch (or preferably lack of it!) are all things I look for, as well as resilience after pulling from a few snags! I've used some lines that are good in some respects but proved useless in others; I particularly remember trying that Ultima Powersteel stuff a few years back. First impressions were very good - nice & smooth, cast well etc etc, but after a couple of uses & pulling from a couple of snags it seemed to lose all strength & started snapping like bait elastic!........so in the bin it went.

I tend to buy line by diameter; 0.35 for clean ground, 0.40 for mixed & 0.50 upwards for rough stuff. For me, one line has proved consistently good in all three and that has been the red Suffix Tritanium - sadly this is no longer available so when my current hoard of the stuff runs out I'll be looking for something to replace it, hence my recent trial of the new Berkley stuff. I used to use a lot of the Trilene Big Game - another very good line but just a little thick & wiry for my liking; so far the XTS is looking like a good contender as a replacement. The only downside (for me) is that it doesn't light up at night like the Tritanium does when you shine your lamp on it; I really like that hi-viz aspect of the Suffix stuff.

Personally I wouldn't go below 0.50mm line for real rough ground either - I don't care what the stated breaking strain is but my feeling is that 0.50 is as thin as I'd want to go to cope with a few scrapes from rocks etc. For short range plopping into real heavy stuff I'll step up to 0.60 or heavier, without a leader - the disadvantage here is that if you do chuck a bit further the amount of line left on a "30" size reel will be almost nothing, so you lose a lot of speed on retrieving your gear. I've found my 30 size reels will hold about 240 yards of the 0.50 stuff, so that really whacking out a clipped down bait will still leave me half a reel-full or so, giving me a pretty good rate of retrieve to get gear, or a fish, up & on the move pretty quickly.

I guess in order of priority I look at:
Diameter.
Resilience (a combination of abrasion resistance & strength & how much use I'll get from the stuff before having to re-spool).
Low stretch.
Stated breaking strain.

Gary

 

[Davey-m]

I use it in 20lb 0.41mm I think is the diameter and it takes some snapping. Not the thinest but have total confidence in the line its been well tested.

 

[Codcodcod!]

I use it in 20lb 0.41mm I think is the diameter and it takes some snapping. Not the thinest but have total confidence in the line its been well tested.

Only prob is with the 20lb theres not enough line on a 525.

 

[Seanovash]

Right av only been fishing for the last year or so nd reading all this I have to say am LOST massive lol the reason I bought the xts coz the price was duble to what a was using nd the other stuff was crap so in turn a thought better price better line by the looks ov it was a good choice thanks for that lads

 

[wheres the fish?]

As always, it's a bit of a compromise. Breaking strain, abrasion resistance, diameter & stretch (or preferably lack of it!) are all things I look for, as well as resilience after pulling from a few snags! I've used some lines that are good in some respects but proved useless in others; I particularly remember trying that Ultima Powersteel stuff a few years back. First impressions were very good - nice & smooth, cast well etc etc, but after a couple of uses & pulling from a couple of snags it seemed to lose all strength & started snapping like bait elastic!........so in the bin it went.

I tend to buy line by diameter; 0.35 for clean ground, 0.40 for mixed & 0.50 upwards for rough stuff. For me, one line has proved consistently good in all three and that has been the red Suffix Tritanium - sadly this is no longer available so when my current hoard of the stuff runs out I'll be looking for something to replace it, hence my recent trial of the new Berkley stuff. I used to use a lot of the Trilene Big Game - another very good line but just a little thick & wiry for my liking; so far the XTS is looking like a good contender as a replacement. The only downside (for me) is that it doesn't light up at night like the Tritanium does when you shine your lamp on it; I really like that hi-viz aspect of the Suffix stuff.

Personally I wouldn't go below 0.50mm line for real rough ground either - I don't care what the stated breaking strain is but my feeling is that 0.50 is as thin as I'd want to go to cope with a few scrapes from rocks etc. For short range plopping into real heavy stuff I'll step up to 0.60 or heavier, without a leader - the disadvantage here is that if you do chuck a bit further the amount of line left on a "30" size reel will be almost nothing, so you lose a lot of speed on retrieving your gear. I've found my 30 size reels will hold about 240 yards of the 0.50 stuff, so that really whacking out a clipped down bait will still leave me half a reel-full or so, giving me a pretty good rate of retrieve to get gear, or a fish, up & on the move pretty quickly.

I guess in order of priority I look at:
Diameter.
Resilience (a combination of abrasion resistance & strength & how much use I'll get from the stuff before having to re-spool).
Low stretch.
Stated breaking strain.

Gary

Gary... You havent been to ID Fishing latley have you, they have lots of RED Suffix

 

[Persues]

Right av only been fishing for the last year or so nd reading all this I have to say am LOST massive lol the reason I bought the xts coz the price was duble to what a was using nd the other stuff was crap so in turn a thought better price better line by the looks ov it was a good choice thanks for that lads

By happy coincidence you bought into a good product, so be relieved rather than confused and enjoy your fishing

 

[Seanovash]

Thanks am gan to buy a new rod the day of ma pal he's selling is a Sonik sk3 for £45 barging a think lol

 

[g-force]

Gary... You havent been to ID Fishing latley have you, they have lots of RED Suffix

I'll have to get myself back there mate - that's where I got my last batch from, thought it would have all gone by now!

Gary