big tides for fishing
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Stewart 1971
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I posted this on Sean's thread on WSF but on the south coast we always reckoned the very big spring tides didn't produce as well as the "jump" tides in between the spring and the neap. Going by this weekend there could be something in that for up here as well.
different marks fish at different state of the tides as well as size tides, some marks are only accessible during the biggest spring tides.
john/r
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yes i read what you wrote on wsf hence i thought i would ask this quest on here i myself prfer the big tide before the biggest spring but also understand what mr charlton says.
big tide more tide pull but does actualy make the fish feed i dont realy no myself,
whats your thoughts when you fished the south coast.
Stewart 1971
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The thing with a lot of south coast marks is they suffer from loads of weed. And I mean loads - in summer you can pull in clumps that are 20lb plus so when the tide is hammering through it can be unfishable anyway. Some marks like Gilkicker Point are very deep and can only be fished on neaps. But I remember talking with Adrian Farley (who sometimes writes for TSF) about this and he said that the jump tides - where a tide goes from say a 4.4 to a 4.7 or a 4.7 to a 4.4 - were always better than the peak springs. Talking with other experienced anglers they tended to agree and my own experience was that the big springs just didn't produce as well as other tides.
It is an odd one, you would have expected plenty of fish to be landed this weekend with a combination of the tides and a bit of a sea running but lots of people seem to have struggled so maybe there is something in it up here as well.
It is an odd one, you would have expected plenty of fish to be landed this weekend with a combination of the tides and a bit of a sea running but lots of people seem to have struggled so maybe there is something in it up here as well.
john/r
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how do the tides on beaches up here compare to down south .
i fished dungie one summer while i was on my holidays and the tide pull there was tremendous.
lynburn up newbiggen used to produce a tide run as did the blast and horden but not so now for me.
why is it because pits not dumping and beaches getting knocked further back.
heard it said before tide run entices fish to feed but big tides dont produce for me the medium ones do.
i find this next bit interesting reading an article in mag yrs ago by paul kerry he was saying the first of flood he would whack it out as far as he could as the tide starts to run earlier further out .
at the moment the places i like on the big tides are seaham north drum flood tide and end of south shields on the south east corner fishing the ebb.
i fished dungie one summer while i was on my holidays and the tide pull there was tremendous.
lynburn up newbiggen used to produce a tide run as did the blast and horden but not so now for me.
why is it because pits not dumping and beaches getting knocked further back.
heard it said before tide run entices fish to feed but big tides dont produce for me the medium ones do.
i find this next bit interesting reading an article in mag yrs ago by paul kerry he was saying the first of flood he would whack it out as far as he could as the tide starts to run earlier further out .
at the moment the places i like on the big tides are seaham north drum flood tide and end of south shields on the south east corner fishing the ebb.
I dont think theres a science to fishing, was the same when i was into coarse fishing one day to the next (same weather and conditions) would be black and white in terms of catching,
I know the tides and sea state affect shore angling but like others have said it's never a certainty when sea fishing...the fish are either there or not and it's up to you and your bait to find and entice them onto the hook
I know the tides and sea state affect shore angling but like others have said it's never a certainty when sea fishing...the fish are either there or not and it's up to you and your bait to find and entice them onto the hook
Stewart 1971
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Strongest tide I've ever fished was down the Aerials at Aldebrough in Suffolk. Only way to hold bottom was to walk 20 - 30 yards uptide, let a big bow of line out after casting and use a fixed nose wire grip lead. Fishing was superb mind - this was spring codding fishing in shorts, landed half a dozen cod to 4lb and lost a few more on the retrieve. A superb place to fish apart from the three mile walk along the shingle to get there.
Apart from the mouth of the Tyne tides up here don't really compare to the Solent. Eastney (my old "home" beach) has a fair old rip even on smaller tides and I've already mentioned Gilkicker. What makes the fishing tough is all the weed - it makes me chuckle lads up here complaining about weed (and there was a bit about last night) - yeah you get a bit clogging up your leader knot but every chuck down there you will be pulling in pounds of the stuff.
Apart from the mouth of the Tyne tides up here don't really compare to the Solent. Eastney (my old "home" beach) has a fair old rip even on smaller tides and I've already mentioned Gilkicker. What makes the fishing tough is all the weed - it makes me chuckle lads up here complaining about weed (and there was a bit about last night) - yeah you get a bit clogging up your leader knot but every chuck down there you will be pulling in pounds of the stuff.
john/r
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I dont think theres a science to fishing, was the same when i was into coarse fishing one day to the next (same weather and conditions) would be black and white in terms of catching,
I know the tides and sea state affect shore angling but like others have said it's never a certainty when sea fishing...the fish are either there or not and it's up to you and your bait to find and entice them onto the hook
fished south end of dawdon blast one day a m8 of mine harry barker was 50yds to right of me stated fishing first of flood harry pulled two out in two casts casting distance then we were about the same.obviously the fish were there i was using a paternoster rig i had it in my mind on account there was a tide running my hook lgth was getting lifted off the bottom. i change my rig several times and started to catch fish after i started to use a trailing hook.
my thoughts on the day were i just had wrong rig on the day. now if i had been down on my own i probaly would of just said there was nothing there.
my theory is on the real big tides there is a chance your baited hook might not be hard on sea bed.
Deans
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like alan says, each mark has its own best tide stages to fish. i swear by this.
and these stages don't last long, this is the time the biggun might turn up. some of the marks i fish, catch best bottom of the drop, others mid flood, others just before high, others top of the drop. all depends were you are.
tucker wreckons the biggest tides are'nt the best and the jump tides better
heard this from a few match lads also and find it interesting as my best catches have'nt been on the springs.
only way you will learn is put the hours into the same mark over and over again:exclam:
and these stages don't last long, this is the time the biggun might turn up. some of the marks i fish, catch best bottom of the drop, others mid flood, others just before high, others top of the drop. all depends were you are.
tucker wreckons the biggest tides are'nt the best and the jump tides better
heard this from a few match lads also and find it interesting as my best catches have'nt been on the springs.
only way you will learn is put the hours into the same mark over and over again:exclam:
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