YEP, passing, kicking shocking, silly knock on's in their own half which led to scrum penalty, and they stood no chance in the scrum, their tackling game meant nothing if the opposition kick over their heads and only ran it when England where knackered, and why Jones took Lawes off' the only player who matched them for physicality. When England saw how RSA where playing and practically knew from the start how they would play and after twenty minutes when Curry and Underhill where nullified Jones should of had them off and brought Wilson and Kruis on and fought fire with fire. Only thing is years ago you picked the biggest players you had as forwards, gradually forwards became lighter and more athletic, RSA went back to the old ways and blew England apart, hope the game doesn't return to huge ponderous forwards. All credit to RSA for sticking with their game plan which England had no answer to. My daughter in law who is South African and two grand kids where delighted and I hope the win goes on to inspire South Africans to better things.