fish dumping

[16979arkle]

anybody seen this The direct link to the video is here if anyone want to watch it.

Video: UK trawler filmed dumping tonnes of fish | Environment | guardian.co.uk

 

[Red5]

Yup, They did a good job on their relationship with the Norwegians on that one. Apparently there were a load of abusive posts on Norwegian forums toward the Scots fishing fleet.

 

[northeast1]

Yer its a shocker, i just hope a nice shoal of cod wil be feeding on them below and then swin straight for the Northeast cost looking on the bright side abit that i think.

We all know it happens just still a killer when you see it.

 

[Codcodcod!]

Surely, somethings got to be done about it now!

 

[eddie t]

They are dumping small fish to make way for bigger ones it
is shocking somthing should be done about it.

 

[16979arkle]

and thats just one boat

 

[anndy]

well we no who is to blame for this disgraceful action ,, shocking

 

[Sigsy]

 

[Codcodcod!]

I was told they did this but hoped it wasn't true. I can't understand why they (the trawler men) are doing it. Its only going to ruin it for themselves following these actions....but like many, everything is about money NOW and they prob think they'll not be doing this in 5-10years time so it won't affect them. Its no wonder the fishings terrible!

 

[SnaggedUpLad]

to me just another reason we shouldn't be listening to the EU, by putting a quota stops trawler company expanding by stopping the flow of money, i feel sorry for all the trawler men out there who have to throw back fish its literally watching money go down the drain, I understand over fishing but its not a matter for the EU to decide, this law doesn't stop overfishing, just over selling in reality and the fish are still dead so its just wasted

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

The reason (I'm guessing) they're throwing back the fish is because of high-grading and low-grading of fish...the fish they've lobbed back are less profitable than the ones they ended up keeping...videos like this tho do their cause no good it must be said; the prob is it'll end up with a carpet ban on all fishing in certain areas before long as eventually the fisheries will fall below sustainable levels

 

[Codcodcod!]

I was told that once they have there quota they carry on fishing for nicer fish for (2-3lb) fillets. If they get a net full they dump the smaller and bigger cod. Thats what i've been told, not cos they're catching to much.

 

[Codcodcod!]

Are u sure? Can u prove that? Is there some sort of device on the boat that tells people when the quota has been reached at headquaters? I liken it to fly fishing for trout, u catch yr quota (limit) early say after an hour but u may carry on fishing to see what else is there. Even though u shouldnt. I don't go fly fishing by the way!

You're prob right. Not dismissing what u've said but how can u be sure.

 

[mark]

I was told that once they have there quota they carry on fishing for nicer fish for (2-3lb) fillets. If they get a net full they dump the smaller and bigger cod. Thats what i've been told, not cos they're catching to much.

a very tiny minority may do, most don't as it's costs them too much. The xtra they may make by landing bigger fish, they sharp lose with the price of the fuel. Some of th guys I know, with boats in the 65 to 75' range, are burning 10000 litres of fuel in a 5 day trip, and extra day towing to try to get better fish is going to cost them another grand or 2 in running cost, the price difference between smaller fish and bigger ones is not that huge. Most of the buyers operate something of a monopoly

Considering how hard to come by cod are supposed to be, this morning prices at peterhead we're as low as £1 per kilo for A5 cod, which are basically those that just in size, the better fish - A3 cod, usually between 5 and 10lb fish was as low as £1.50 a kilo, and the A1's which are the prime 10lb plus fish was as low as £1.80 a kilo

to make back a grand's worth of diesel burnt they'd have to find a lot more bigger fish, and if the gamble don't pay off, they can be out of pocket, and have lost some of their days at sea

shocking when you think that tesco's will be wanting getting on for a tenner a Kilo for cod retail, yet as one of the biggest buyers they won't pay more than a quid or so for it, some profit margin that is

FWIW, this mornings Coley price was 60p a kilo! and haddock was as low as 55p

 

[Charlton]

crazy

 

[tonynufc]

no wonder the sea's are in the mess they are when them clowns are doing things like that. thats a total joke. if that doesn't make the government do something then what will.

 

[dappa]

trawlers

trawlers

my personal view,get rid of nets ,trawlers.everything that comes to the table should be line caught,just think the fish stock would increase people would pay more for there fish because of the way it was caught,and it would make people aware that they can't abuse the sea and the creatures that swim in it.

 

[PaulGH]

The EU make the rules, the Government must obey them rules.

And the fish stocks pay the price

 

[dizzydaz]

my personal view,get rid of nets ,trawlers.everything that comes to the table should be line caught,just think the fish stock would increase people would pay more for there fish because of the way it was caught,and it would make people aware that they can't abuse the sea and the creatures that swim in it.

i totally agree with you but at the end of the day this will never happen until the sea has been trawlled completely empty...and why because the goverment and eu have there "quotas" on all fish one one species of fish like the cod become extinct whats gonna be next whities,pollack,even coalies the way things are goin our great grand children aint goin to have nothing to fish for tackle shops will no doubt stop selling sea gear it will collapse before long

 

[mark]

my personal view,get rid of nets ,trawlers.everything that comes to the table should be line caught,just think the fish stock would increase people would pay more for there fish because of the way it was caught,and it would make people aware that they can't abuse the sea and the creatures that swim in it.

a sensible idea but it'll not happen unless they also outlaw the trading of quotas as a commodity. IMHO you should only be allowed to buy a quote if you've actually got a boat it use it with, and quota should be specific to national waters, Currently the French and Spanish hold more quota for North Sea white fish than the british do

the lining idea would also need heavy limits placed on the gear as well, the big longliners can do as much damage as the trawlers. 1 big longliner in a fortnight last year, virtually emptied loch sunart of everything