Inshore netters

allthough the guys who are licienced do cause us to complain its the unlienced nets that cause the damage in my opinion, having seen many good bass marks on the welsh coast devastated by nets, the worst occasion a few of us took a fair trek then down a cliff face path to one of our hidden but very productive marks, we passed a group who once past us shouted dont waste your time lads we have netted the place and carried on away laughing, as we were so close to the mark we carried on, two long nets could be seen one off each side of the rock arms to the sides of the small bay, it was worth the swim to gather the nets, then burn the lot :mad:


Well surprisingly there is no quota limits up here for bass so they can catch as much as they like, as long as they are of MLS (35cm according to the fella I spoke to at the EA the other week ???).

In case anyone missed it last time round 'The End of the Line' is on Channel 4 this Saturday night, a real educational eye opener for anyone interested in fish stocks, but not as good as the book sadly.

Also, dunno how many of you have Sky but there is a programme on Bravo at the moment called 'Deadly North Sea', which has focused on one of the Scottish Pelagic Trawlers, which would make you seethe with anger when you realise how much fish it can haul in one Trawl, and also one of the Demersal trawlers that used to be on 'Trawler Men'...........The commentator is really annoying as he keeps on trying to get the sympathy vote by saying, they are ONLY allowed 20 days at sea per month, but when you see how many fish they land, and how many they discard due to quotas. They fail to mention that they wouldn't need to have discards if trawling wasn't such an indescriminate way of catching fish!
 
Trawlermen ?

Trawlermen ?

Aye and don't forget, at least a couple of these illustrious 'Trawlermen', whose virtues are so extolled by the simpering commentator are currently serving 'time'
for crimes relating to landing 'Black Fish'.

As far as inshore netters are concerned, the vast majority are benefit cheats so simply photograph them 'in the act' and forward the shots to the relevant department.

Job done!

Drof
 
out in kayak today off megies burn wreck blyth beach, had a quick look at the marker everyone been saying was nets. just seemed to be a bouy with a long rope on it but no nets attached???
 
Response from Northumberland SFC

Response from Northumberland SFC

This is the response I have recived from NSFC
Les

THE NORTHUMBERLAND SEA FISHERIES COMMITTEE


MICHAEL H. HARDY LL.BChief Executive Chief Executive’s Office Unit 60B South Nelson RoadCramlingtonNorthumberland NE23 1WF


Telephone (01670) 731399
Telefax (01670) 731639
E-mail [email protected]
Web site THE NORTHUMBERLAND SEA FISHERIES COMMITTEE - Home Page MARCH 2010


INFORMATION FOR ANGLERS and other interested parties

Fishing activity using fixed engines (gillnetting and T netting) in the Northumberland SFC district


Attached to this Notice is a copy of the committee’s Byelaw No. 4 Fixed Engines.

Please note that all fishing vessels under 10 metres in length with an uncapped
licence (from Defra) to fish can presently catch up to the current monthly legal quota allowance of cod, whiting and other species using legally sized gillnets.

Also please note that all under 10 metre fishing vessels which have a capped licence can only land 300 kilograms per annum of any TAC species.

Regular checks are carried out by fishery enforcement officers in respect of licensed fishing vessels at ports in the district as well as at sea using the committee’s patrol vessel St. Oswald and RIBs Bravo 1 and Delta 1.

Nets can be used to catch pot bait from locations which are not prohibited by the byelaw and provided the species caught are of at least the legal minimum size (where there is one).

Unregistered and unlicensed persons may place gillnets in the sea in legally permitted areas to catch species of the permitted minimum size and over but are not permitted to sell what they catch.

Further information is available from the committee office or from a fishery officer.

All byelaws are on the committee website but if you would like a hard copy of the byelaws, please telephone the committee office.


The above is not a formal statement of the law, for which reference should be made to the relevant legislation and any Court cases decided thereunder.

BYELAW 4
TO ACCOMPANY NOTICE ‘MARCH 2010’

4. Fixed Engines

For the purpose of section 6 of the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975 the placing and use of any fixed engines is hereby authorised within the district of the Northumberland Sea Fisheries Committee excluding such part as lies within the River Tweed as defined in the Tweed Fisheries (Amendment) Act 1859 as amended by byelaws, providing that, in relation to any fixed engine other than a trap for taking lobsters and crabs, the following conditions are complied with:

(1) Subject as mentioned below at no time shall a fixed engine be placed or suspended unattended for taking salmon or trout.

(2) During the period 26th March to 31st October inclusive, no fixed engine other than a ‘T’ net authorised by the Environment Agency’s Salmon Net Byelaws confirmed (save as to Byelaws 16 and 19) on 21st February 1995 and (as to Byelaws 16 and 19) on 8th June 1995, shall:

(a) be placed or used in a depth of water less than 7 metres unless the position of any such fixed engine is on a rise in the sea bed separated from the shore by water deeper than 7 metres at any state of the tide;

(b) be placed or used so that the headline is less than 4 metres below the surface of the water at any state of the tide;

(c) be placed to the west of a line drawn:

(i) between the seaward end of the south pier at South Shields and Marsden Point; and

(ii) between Hauxley Point and Coquet Island Light House, thence on a bearing 355º to a point 3 nautical miles and 622 metres distant and thence due north-west to Seaton Point.

(3) During the period 1st November to 25th March inclusive no fixed engine shall be placed within the following areas (known locally as the Tyne Playground, Wansbeck Playground and Coquet Playground) unless the headline shall be at least 4 metres below the water at any state of the tide:


(a) Tyne Playground

Those tidal waters and parts of the sea within that part of the Northumberland Sea Fisheries Committee’s district as lies within an area bounded as follows:

(i) on the north by a line one nautical mile in length drawn due east from Marconi Point, Cullercoats;

(ii) on the south by a line one nautical mile in length drawn due east from Souter Point; and

(iii) on the east by a straight line joining the eastern extremities of the northern and southern boundary lines.

(b) Wansbeck Playground

Those tidal waters and parts of the sea at Newbiggin by the Sea west of a straight line drawn between the south eastern beacon, being one of the four beacons used by ships for identifying the measured nautical mile offshore of Newbiggin by the Sea, and the easternmost of the four chimneys at Blyth Power Station, Cambois.

(c) Coquet Playground

Those tidal waters and parts of the sea within an area bounded as follows:

(i) on the north by a line drawn due west to the high water mark on the shore from a position Coquet Lighthouse bearing 355° distance 3 nautical miles and 622 metres;

(ii) on the south by a line drawn due west to the high water mark on the shore from a position Coquet Lighthouse bearing 160° distance 1 nautical mile and 1024 metres; and

(iii) on the east by a straight line joining the eastern extremities of the said northern and southern boundary lines.
 
Red5 I know what you mean about the pelagic's.I used to see it regularly. There is a good looking first officer off the Fisheies protection vessel on there that looks like my twin!
Thats one of the main reasons I left the SFPA or Marine Scotland as they are now as I got so disenchanted with the whole thing. The people that the governement employ to set the sustainable levels of fish caught and quota's are ignored by MP's getting bigger quota's for their constituents! Why employ the scientists in the first place if you are going to ignore what they have to say??????? The smaller the net you tow with the more days you get?
I have moved back to the commercial side of the merchant navy and haven't looked back yet! Except for tonight to laugh at myself on tv!

Graham.
 
There's a boat moored in Royal Quays Marina who fishes the gill nets and pots although it's not actually his full time job. I noticed last week that he brought in loads of boxes of cod and flatties which he took away to presumably sell. I guess he's operating with a valid licence and therefore entitled within the law but there was also several boxes of undersize fish left on the deck which I assume was destined for pot bait.
If the mesh size is such that undersize fish are going to be caught well at least they did not die in vain if they go into the pots but I have difficulty coming to terms with the whole concept.
The fisheries patrol vessel is also moored within the marina so I guess everything is hunky dory but I really cannot get my head around it.
 
There's a boat moored in Royal Quays Marina who fishes the gill nets and pots although it's not actually his full time job. I noticed last week that he brought in loads of boxes of cod and flatties which he took away to presumably sell. I guess he's operating with a valid licence and therefore entitled within the law but there was also several boxes of undersize fish left on the deck which I assume was destined for pot bait.
If the mesh size is such that undersize fish are going to be caught well at least they did not die in vain if they go into the pots but I have difficulty coming to terms with the whole concept.
The fisheries patrol vessel is also moored within the marina so I guess everything is hunky dory but I really cannot get my head around it.

Interesting post there mate
 
There's a boat moored in Royal Quays Marina who fishes the gill nets and pots although it's not actually his full time job. I noticed last week that he brought in loads of boxes of cod and flatties which he took away to presumably sell. I guess he's operating with a valid licence and therefore entitled within the law but there was also several boxes of undersize fish left on the deck which I assume was destined for pot bait.
If the mesh size is such that undersize fish are going to be caught well at least they did not die in vain if they go into the pots but I have difficulty coming to terms with the whole concept.
The fisheries patrol vessel is also moored within the marina so I guess everything is hunky dory but I really cannot get my head around it.[/QUOTE ]

Drifter, I would think he is not allowed to land undersized fish for potbait or any other reason. here is a bit from Loopy's post.

Nets can be used to catch pot bait from locations which are not prohibited by the byelaw and provided the species caught are of at least the legal minimum size (where there is one).

Unregistered and unlicensed persons may place gillnets in the sea in legally permitted areas to catch species of the permitted minimum size and over but are not permitted to sell what they catch.
 
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