local rock mark 25th.little uns

mardenq

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fished local rock mark from 5pm till 8 down to low water,first time out with my hst,got a fish every chuck but one,these little greedy things,used fresh crab and frozen blacks,caught on them together or on there own,fished in the heavy kelp but only lost a couple of leads,used the cany links bought of this site ,great little links,also had the company of a seal and her pup.nice night to be out fishing,and i lost a good one

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most were size,really thick kelp so a pain bringin them in,better when the lead broke off then the fish came to the top,what do people use rig wise in thick kelp ?,i was usin pullys with them cany links bought off here,im gona try a short pully with a longer weak line to try get the lead off quickly,loose a few leads but if you conect to a good fish who cares
peter
 
I fish that area mostly with simple one hook flappers with a hook length of around 3ft and a short drop to the lead, with a simple rotten bottom. Rig body (generally 80 lb) is tied with a stand-off loop & hook length is attached loop to loop. The lead link is an upturned Gemini link with about 8" of rotten link attached, hung about 8" below the stand off loop. Minimum amount of gear to lose & about all I use for plopping & mid range into kelp. For longer casting I clip down a drop-down rig, again knocked up with the minimum about of bits (something I came up with myself), again with a rotten bottom link. Heavy hook lengths (usually 40 & 50lb b/s), hooks are generally Mustad Powerworms or Gamakatsu G-Points in 4/0-6/0, or Kamasan Uptiders in 4/0 & 5/0.

Personally, I hate and never use pulley rigs.

Gary :)
 
Personally, I hate and never use pulley rigs.

Gary :)[/QUOTE]

surprised at that mate.

people say to me you miss bites, ive never had bother (targeting cod )

heard a few other digs at the rig lately??

you tried long pullys? or short
 
Personally, I hate and never use pulley rigs.

Gary :)

surprised at that mate.

people say to me you miss bites, ive never had bother (targeting cod )

heard a few other digs at the rig lately??

you tried long pullys? or short

I use a few different rigs but I favour pulley rigs. I use very long rigs, even in heavy ground.
 
I've tried them long, medium & short and just don't get on with them - way too many missed bites. I had one bite once that would have taken my rod out of the stand if the whole lot wasn't well braced among the rocks - as it was it was strong enough to buckle the legs of my tripod, but when I got the rod loose the fish was gone.

I know they have their places for things like smoothies and have heard people say they work better in deep water, but I just have no confidence in them any more for fishing round these parts. As for getting your sinker up and over snags, well, in the kelp it's 95% of the time your hook that's going to get fast up and not the sinker, and most of the ground I fish (locally) is not particularly deep. These days I also use plain leads a lot more in the kelp as well - I use grippers more on harder rough-ground.

Just a personal thing based on experience really, but I've got 3 basic rigs that I use for my rough-ground fishing, with various tweaks (length of snood, lead-link etc.) that I'll make depending on conditions.

Gary :)
 
same here sean , i prefer a long pulley, with hooks that will mostly pull from snags unless am fishing from cliffs where i use stronger.

interesting that gary, i know a lot of good fisherman who sware by patternoster (spelling?) rigs , but all rigs miss the odd better fish?

no details on the whitley open yet gary?
 
I tend to agree with Gary, not a fan of pulley rigs much preferring old fashioned paternosters. Can't speak for cod fishing as only been home a year but for fast hitting fish like Bass and especially Smoothhound pulley rigs are a very poor choice with a low bite to hook up ratio.

I do use pulleys over rough ground though, to me that is where they have a slight advantage.
 
I just remember one night in particular when I was trying pulley-rigs, I was getting loads of bites right from the off & must have missed about 8 in a row. In disgust I cut them to bits and pulled out the trusty old low-tech paternosters - never missed a bite after that and went home with about 15 fish. Never used one since. (Must add that none of the anglers I know or fish with will use a pulley-rig either, for much the same reasons).

Dean, with regard to the Whitley Open, I've just finished the brochure (off to the printers next tuesday) and will be posting all the details shortly (just got a few negotiations with sponsors to finish up) but I can let you know of a couple of changes we've made this year.

Firstly, as it's still a time, 18 September, when you can pull some good reddies out of the weeds (given good conditions on the day:roll eyes:) we've opened the boundaries up to Seahouses & taken out the river Tyne, so we're fishing Tynemouth pier northwards. Secondly, we'll be using the Bankhouse Club in Newbiggin as the competition HQ - everyone knows where it is as it's used for most of the other opens and it means if returning from the northern end of the boundaries it's not quite such a long drive as all the way back to Whitley Bay. Also hope to attract some of the flatty-fishers with a £100 heaviest flatfish prize (gives some of the young'uns a good chance too) as it opens up the likes of Warkworth beach & Embleton.

Gary :)
 
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