Mariner outboard

[northeast1]

Does anyone own a Mariner outboard engine, either the 90bhp, 100bhp or the 115bhp? if so what millage are you getting to it? as always what the books say and what you get is never close.

In limbo about sticking with an inboard or going for a outboard, i have all the pro's and cons now but the fuel is still a sticky one, since red is now well over £1 a ltr with your little bit off for tax it makes a outboard abit more attractive.

Also boats with outboards seem to be abit cheaper.

 

[mark]

Don't buy your deisel at the RQ!

talk nicely to the man at Caley - 47p a short while ago

or take drums, plenty of garages around selling red at 60p or so

 

[northeast1]

It is just the hassle Mark, you cant take drums of fuel on the mariner (in the book they issue health and safety) and it is a canny drive up the river to fill my small fuel tank.

Just interested to know what they get mpg, in two minds about a new inboard or go for a outboard.

 

[jonny_s]

Are there not any Hybrid alternatives Richy ie diesel/electric. Or possibly an electric motor addon to your existing engine which can drive the prop for slow cruising ? Batteries will add extra weight but probably worth looking into. Charge overnight at marina/ supplement with decent solar chargers.

Jonny

 

[mark]

you pass caley every time you go out - its on shields quayside next to the ice house

I know they say no drums on the pontoons, but I've seen plenty doing it!

think the rules say no 'refuelling from drums' on the pontoons. nothing to stop you carrying them on then filling the tanks when you get out of the lock

 

[joostan]

Personally I would love to have an inboard on my Pilot but then I do have a 25hp on it and probably wasting too much HP (and fuel) pushing a hull that's not designed to go that fast. I normally use about 40 ltrs on a 8-10 hour session just pottering from the mouth to the can and about 10-13 miles out squared (thats @ half revs).

 

[Charlton]

outboards will alway use more fuel than inboards Rich, I had a Mariner 60 and had to take ten gallon, used about eight, two for just in case, with me for a wrecking trip.

 

[oldessox]

It's not an easy choice (I know , I can't decide ) outboards use more fuel but inboards cost a hell of a lot more in the first place , for how often we use them I don't think the fuel running costs should matter that much , unless you are going BIG engines. I think the difference in price between a boat with a 100hp outboard and a 100hp inboard will pay for a hell of a lot of petrol.
I've went over and over this recently and I still can't decide which is the best option .

Ray

 

[kingcod deano]

i have a 40 suzukki and get 4 mile to the gallon on full throttle probs about 6 on 3 quater my mate has a 100 mariner 2 stroke and he gets 3 mile to the gallon on 3 quater throttle but obviously if you got a 4 stroke it would be more economical

 

[Falcone]

Personally I would love to have an inboard on my Pilot but then I do have a 25hp on it and probably wasting too much HP (and fuel) pushing a hull that's not designed to go that fast. I normally use about 40 ltrs on a 8-10 hour session just pottering from the mouth to the can and about 10-13 miles out squared (thats @ half revs).

Crikey that enormous consumption from just 25 hp.

 

[The Jester]

Must be coming up to that "New Boat" time you spoke of earlier in the year when i changed my boat to one with an inboard. You must be thinking about a Jeanneau or Benateau with an outboard, Richy what about servicing costs, you service the nanni yourself, the price of 4 stroke engine oil, filters, gearbox oil, impellers and someone to do the service for you etc would be a canny bit more than the inboard. Dont reckon an outboard would be that economical on a displacement hull, and i've never checked but a 100hp would be around £9-10,000 new........

 

[northeast1]

Just looking around at the moment.

Service wise i woudl just do it myself, fully understand the full service and have a set up in my outhouse for my back up outboard already.

Its mainly the cost of fuel i am interested in as i put about 200 hours on the engine per season, so far this season i ahve done 194 hours on mine and if the weather is kind will add at least 30 more on that, starting with both days this weekend

 

[joostan]

.......Dont reckon an outboard would be that economical on a displacement hull........

Agreed!

 

[Norman]

200 hrs Rich ? Think I`ve done the same miles but in only 40 hrs ..... dont know how that can be ....


In general .... type and use of engine is 50% of the fun of the boat ie:- in, start, go, fish, return, doing as much as possible to find the fish
big easy engine - no probs but small iffy engine all worries and waiting to get there.

but on reflection of costs, even if you gun the engine flat out the cost of fuel (certainly diesel anyway) will only be 10% the cost of the total package (fees, purchase, maintain etc)
so its "a no brainer" as they say ...... 50% fun for 10% cost ......... QED go for it big engine, diesel, inboard ... just my view

norm

 

[boblydon]

Would love to see you service a service an outboard of 100hp in your outhouse..........i take it you have no idea of how much the bugger would weigh, never mind the logistics of transporting to and from your outhouse........or for that matter the work involved in unbolting it, removing and refitting it.

 

[northeast1]

You do 20+ knots Norman and i only do 8 and i am out 2, 3 times a week for either fishing or taken family out so double your fishing most weeks so if you do 40 then double that for my speed then double that again for the extra day a weekend , i agree experiance of the boat in general is half the fun.

Purchased the boat on 246hrs it now has 627 hours, 2 full years and one Aug till late September.

Still happy with it, just like everyone they always wish to upgrade, it has served me well and apart from a couple of service items and 1 issue with ice it has been great.

 

[Norman]

You do 20+ knots Norman and i only do 8 and i am out 2, 3 times a week for either fishing or taken family out

twas only a joke rich

norm

 

[The Jester]

If you needed a twin wheel trailer Richy to tow the boat to your house to work on the engine ( If you decide on an outboard ) i've got one you can use, no probs....

 

[northeast1]

The inboard is still edging it but not as much as it was last year, what made me think was a pilot 640 with a 115bph 2008 for sale down Whitby, looked fantastic condition with all the toys for £18.200 ono..that got me thinking

 

[mark]

Would love to see you service a service an outboard of 100hp in your outhouse..........i take it you have no idea of how much the bugger would weigh, never mind the logistics of transporting to and from your outhouse........or for that matter the work involved in unbolting it, removing and refitting it.

thats what I was gonna say. 175kg or more is a big thing to shift.