Mickey davison

pondlife said:
I can see the point of a shock leader if your pendulum casting but if your only having an overhead thump then the worst that can happen is you have a crack off and it goes out to sea for a mile or ten and hits a trawler perhaps
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Sorry, but thats rubbish. As soon as the rod starts to take the strain, your line (which could have been nicked at anytime) can part at anytime from the horizontal to the vertical. I've seen sinkers fly straight up in the air and fall literally inches from the bloke casting out, and they don't just lob up in the air either. They go up at a fair lick, and come down even faster.
 
leave wor pondy alarn man hes been out of fishing for 50 year and is only just started getting used to the new age angling ways ;)
 
shock leader

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codseeker said:
leave wor pondy alarn man hes been out of fishing for 50 year and is only just started getting used to the new age angling ways ;)
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not trying to get at any body mate ( BUT THE LAD ASKED WATS A SHOCKLEADER FOR, ) so a tried to explain best a can and sorry if not a been understood but mabye someone else can explain better than i can , i have seen wat damage a 5-6 oz can do to some one who has been hit

try throwing a lead against a brick wall hard as you can then multiply that at least six times then try to caculate the damage ?

Safety is paramountwhen fishing
 
if you want to know what a lead wieght can do then have a read, and a crack offs going a lot faster

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00568/SNN0121C-180_568729a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1630277.ece&usg=__AYkVW9Zl_tsmY984SBl-NodXM_4=&h=250&w=180&sz=22&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=R2iU1WxHiH02hM:&tbnh=111&tbnw=80&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfishing%2Bweight%2Binjury%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1



and heres another tale of woe



A man fishing off Long Island is dead after a 3-ounce lead fishing weight attached to his pole struck him in the face and dug into his brain.

Relatives and a physician say Roosevelt resident Jaime (Hai-MEH) Chicas (CHEEK-ahs) died Tuesday from severe head trauma and herniation.

A neurologist at Nassau University Medical Center says the lead weight from Chicas' fishing pole hit with "so much force that it kept going" and lodged in the back of his head.

Relatives say the 21-year-old was fishing with his brother-in-law and cousin at the west end of Jones Beach Friday when the accident happened.
 
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think about it

think about it

I was fishn on marsden beach with a mate he had a snap off when using his 7ht(15lb main and 80lb shock)
so he deciced to put a penn 535 on with new 35lb main line straight through, i wasnt taking much notice as he allways uses a shockleader.
His third or fourth cast snapped half way through an over head cast the weight went straight up and came belting down and landed feet from where i was standing i couldnt believe what had just happened and how close the weight had came to landing on me and the damage it could av done.
Apparently he's been told at some point there's no need to use shockleaders with line of that poundage.
obviously this is not the case as the slightest nick dramaticaly reduces the line strenght and this was new line.
allways use shockleaders what ever pound line or type of casting you do. wether your a beginer or an experienced angler as accidents happen.
The time it takes to tie an extra length of line on compared to the years of regret you will have wishing you had if you disable or kill someone
 
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I think you' lads made a fair point about the lead going straight up in the air. Im almost sorry i asked now.
If youve got a shockleader on where does the lead go when your reel jams/stops or generally your cast doesn't go as expected.?.
I can certainly see the point of safety first. I always have a shockleader on me 525 and me daiwa 6hm before that (showing me age now) and will carry on to do so. Im just wondering if shockers are as safe as what people believe them to be.

many moons ago (mid 80's) i went down to watch the lads fishing the vaux open on roker pier. It must have been 3 deep for much of its length and during the day a chap was hit in the back of the head with a grappel lead (breakaway/spider). he looked like he'd been shot and couldnt stand up. the ambulance had difficulty getting along the pier to his aid and looked a sorry state by the time he was evacuated from the area.
 
must admit, i have the line going across a finger as i reel in, that way you can feel a nick, but its not often i check above that

then again the ammount of stuck in and pull for a snap i get the leaders changed fairly often :)
 
If you use a scarboro reel then every inch goes through your fingers as you pull in, therefore any weaknesses in your line are felt. Does anyone have any incidents of these sidecasters hitting anyone else?
 
I remember fishing club comps in my younger days when there would be maybe fifteen or more of us on the likes of West Bay skeer, all using Scarboroughs - there was an etiquette back then when it came to casting; namely go to the side of everybody else (which side depended on which way you were swinging), everyone would then lower their rods while you hoyed out & you would then sort out your position with regard to everyone else. I don't recall any one ever getting whacked.

Difficult to do these days as a lot of people seem to regard the planting of their tripod as some sort of staking of a claim, unwilling to accommodate the needs of other anglers.

Cheers, Gary :)
 
when i fish comps or when someone is next to me i always say "watch your heads lads coming over" then wait till they acknowledge me but some just look at you as if your stupid.
I do check my rigs on change over though (100lb), if your wondering why i use 100lb for rig lengths its because rigs need several knots for links and swivels or maybe crimps and this may weaken the line so as a precaution i use 100lb I just prefer to have confidence in my rigs when giving them a good chuck.....
I never ever check my shockleader (80lb) maybe i should start doing so, I do replace it before every trip though which maybe excessive. but gives me peace of mind.
 
Stores said:
If you use a scarboro reel then every inch goes through your fingers as you pull in, therefore any weaknesses in your line are felt. Does anyone have any incidents of these sidecasters hitting anyone else?
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Not really David. The last 15 ft or so (the line that doesn't go on your reel) doesn't get felt, and its that length of line that takes the majority of the strain during a cast.
 
Davyred said:
Not really David. The last 15 ft or so (the line that doesn't go on your reel) doesn't get felt, and its that length of line that takes the majority of the strain during a cast.
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Good point Davy, never really thought about that bit. Will give it the once over from now on.
 
thankfully mick who was hit by the lead is ok. he was fishing seaham north pier on drum head the lead hit him in the back just below his head.
the crack off came from about 20yds down from the drum head but as i say he is ok but shaken.
 
john/r said:
thankfully mick who was hit by the lead is ok. he was fishing seaham north pier on drum head the lead hit him in the back just below his head.
the crack off came from about 20yds down from the drum head but as i say he is ok but shaken.
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Very good news John,but Mickey as lucky man indeed.
Has the club looked into the accident,would have thought they would have to report it.
 
harry barker said:
Very good news John,but Mickey as lucky man indeed.
Has the club looked into the accident,would have thought they would have to report it.
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might have nothing to do with club harry ?? might of not of happened in a competition.

is pendulum casting banned from fishing clubs /comps

i,m not a member of a club or fish comps so ??

i love early morning fishing i get away from all this well most times

have you seen m4 on ebay now harry
 

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