Missed bites / big pull downs

[finseeker]

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[Rocker]

Add Chemicaly sharpened hooks, a point of resistance (sinker) and an alert angler and you would have a hooked fish.

 

[finseeker]

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[Rocker]

You won't hook every fish, there's too many variables

 

[Deans]

No Dean, diddnt fancy it.
I use wired hooks when I'm using crab clipped down, stops it blowing up the snood off the hook.
I'm waiting for the sea to come away midweek,
Any fish coming out ya back garden?

was poor like on roker pier, thought maybe chance a tidal fish near the bunker. crap.

as for the back garden, am selling passes for any one who wants to fish it. tenna a shot, or just send me a pm and i will email

 

[finseeker]

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[Rocker]

was poor like on roker pier, thought maybe chance a tidal fish near the bunker. crap.

as for the back garden, am selling passes for any one who wants to fish it. tenna a shot, or just send me a pm and i will email

Haha, I might need a couple of pointers for next month mate

 

[Deans]

Good point Rocker that if a fish pulls your tip right over that should`ve been enough to set the hook- thats what i couldnt work out was why there was no fish on after such strong pulls ........... Does anyone ever hook lobsters or crabs after a big pull down ?

big pull down doesnt mean you should be setting the hook
sometimes its just unlucky. innit lads- improve your chances....yes

chukka made a good point about long snoods.

 

[loopy]

Found this today if you want to see the pull from a lobster. Fast forward to 1.59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WbBuHsQh80

 

[hughgee]

Had a similair problem at Blyth beach last night. Had four good knocks using a pulley, was in to the first one which was a very good fish but lost it almost straight away. Missed two other solid knocks too. Got one out just over 4lb but should've been much better. Think it might be the pulley rig.

 

[kevr6384]

I stopped using pulley rigs after last winter and just switched to a simple 1 hook rig made made using a 3 way swivel - found my catch rate has improved a lot this year so far. I always hold my rod as well so i can feel whats going on all the time.

 

[codhunter40]

I also have given up using pulley rigs.. Lost quite a few fish with them, just use a simple paternoster rig with a rotten bottom.. Works really well, cheap and quick to tie..

 

[johnrob]

Some good sound advice lads. Very interesting read.

 

[david.northeast]

What ground are yous all talking about because for beach work I fish pulleys all the time and don't seem to be any worse off than any other rig. Rough ground simple me hook flapper does the trick with a rotten bottom. Big pull downs don't mean fish are hooked a fish can pick the bait up form the side and drop it after a pull resulting in no hook up , just got to wait for next take

 

[codhunter40]

I was talking about rough ground, although not sure what other lads were fishing into.. Although fishing clean beaches i do use flapper rigs etc. etc.

 

[david.northeast]

I was talking about rough ground, although not sure what other lads were fishing into.. Although fishing clean beaches i do use flapper rigs etc. etc.

I mainly use pulley rigs in different styles in all types of ground but for the rough stuff I have found a simple one hook flapper is best in heavy ground/kelp

 

[magpies]

One thing I have noticed with CART is you sometimes get a massive bites from nowhere because even a little whiting can catch its teeth in the mesh (whatever you are using) and panic. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

 

[codcatcher3000]

I also have given up using pulley rigs.. Lost quite a few fish with them, just use a simple paternoster rig with a rotten bottom.. Works really well, cheap and quick to tie..

lately i found that clipped down paternosters fare better for me than a pulley . why i dont know .

 

[TerryC]

Velvet swimmer crabs give really good bites ! managed to hook one on Saturday about 3" across the back of the shell. BTW they can be a real pest as well float fishing somewhere like Cullernose point.